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This is great, but do you have an Intel version?

Andrew Weiler


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From: Chrysolithos <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Toy Story
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    I HAVE been in a cave (My animation pit) too long, but I still
managd to see Toy Story 3 times, the Will Vinton Blue M&Ms commercials, and
most episodes of Reboot.  How come nobody talks about Reboot, here?
I've heard they (Mainframe Entertainment) use a program called Smiley to
do the lip synk.  I guess it uses the audio of the voice talent to
generate the phonem sequences.  Sounds like a real time saver. Not done
on Lightwave though.  Cool show, last week's was a combination Gerry
Anderson/Mighty Morphin/Giant Robot parody.

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|           Christopher McDonell             |                      |
|      Chrysolithos Video Productions        | Albedo-3D animation  |
|--------------------------------------------+ stills now available |
|      Specializing in Medical Simulations   |   at ftp.eskimo.com  |
|      [phone]    [e-mail]   |  /u/s/solith/Albedo  |
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From: Prem Subrahmanyam <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LW4.0 for WIN95  - Stability ???
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:53:12 -0500
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Elfwork wrote:
>
> I've been using Modeler a lot recently, and I've had it lock up on
me
> several times under Win95.
>
> At least twice, it was immediately after doing an aborted
right-click&drag
> area select operation.
> I'd be selecting a group of polygons, let up on the button, move
the
> mouse, and then get an error message causing the program to close.
>
> Here's another Modeler bug I've noticed:
> (Though it seems to be a Video driver problem, not NewTek's)
> Some pointer types (Circle, 'To', Box, etc.) don't line up the 'hot
spots'
> correctly on my ATI Mach64 4MB display card. Instead of lining up
with the
> 'center' of the pointer, often the 'hot spot' is the lower-left
corner of
> the icon.
> PhotoShop seems to have the same problem, though I've noticed the
pointers
> line up correctly on an older ATI Mach32 card?!?
>
> Erik Flom - ELFWORKS 3D Construction Co. (Est. 1992)

I have the same bug on my machine, pointers not lining up and stuff.
I think it's the Mach 64 drivers.  I have the same problem happen
in Corel, Borland's Resource Workshop, and just about anything that
uses custom pointers.  It's not the fault of any of the programs,
but ATI's driver.  At least this driver is better than the last
one they put up...just about every 16-bit program, as well as LW and
some others would GP on exit...turned out to be the display driver,
and that only after reinstalling Windows 95 three times, getting
Norton AntiVirus to look for viral activity, three calls to
MicroShmucks tech support(at my expense, mind you), etc.
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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I cannot load Sentinal driver!
Date: 22 Dec 1995 03:28:52 GMT
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[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:
>> Since I installed my PVR card, I cannot start up lightwave. It worked
>> fine before I installed the card. Now it will not load and it will not >> allow me to load the Sentinal driver!

      You can't install the Sentinal driver because it is
      set to a "read only" file. In the file manager,
      use the properties control to change the "RA"
      to "A" beside the driver file.
      Then, install the driver with install program
      off of the LightWave CD. You cannot copy the
      driver... it needs to be installed.
      Good Luck... let me know how it turns out.

      Dan Ablan




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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harlock)
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Subject: Re: AfterEffects rocks
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gerald Poirier <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:47:01 -0500, Ernie Wright
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>It made me want to throw a sledgehammer at my TV...
>>
>Anyone use an old 1080S as a TV monitor ? ;)

I is.  Fits perfectly into my desk hutch near (but not too near because of
interference) to my Amiga monitor.  Anyone know of any store bought lead type
items to coat monitors with to avoid RF spill?  15 khz does not bode well
spilling onto a 21" monitor doing 1024X768.  I've seen shielded rack mount
cases, but I'm looking for something a bit more modular and flexible.

Only thing I noticed about my particular 1084 (which I've seen on others)
is that the color balance is a little to the yellow side. (in NTSC mode)
---Mike

>
>Gege



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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: hardwood floor
Date: 22 Dec 1995 03:36:21 GMT
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>In article <4alqcb$[e-mail]>  (Andre) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Andre)

>
>>I am trying to design in indoor scene which has a hardwood floor. I have
>>been trying and trying, but can't get the floor quite right. I was
>>hoping someone out there may have done something like this and could
>>perhaps walk me through the steps of modeling and surfacing a hardwood
>>floor.
>>Thanks in advance.


    Easy.  Read my article on how to do exactly this
    in the January, 1995 issue of LightWave Pro.

    Dan Ablan

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From: Jason Kaehler <[e-mail]>
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What is PowerView you refer to here?

--
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Jason Kaehler                                       [e-mail]
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                "Buy the best, invent the rest!"


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Cosky)
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:46:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mike Harlock) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Gerald Poirier <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:47:01 -0500, Ernie Wright
>><[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>It made me want to throw a sledgehammer at my TV...
>>>
>>Anyone use an old 1080S as a TV monitor ? ;)

>I is.  Fits perfectly into my desk hutch near (but not too near because of
>interference) to my Amiga monitor.  Anyone know of any store bought lead type
>items to coat monitors with to avoid RF spill?  15 khz does not bode well
>spilling onto a 21" monitor doing 1024X768.  I've seen shielded rack mount
>cases, but I'm looking for something a bit more modular and flexible.

>Only thing I noticed about my particular 1084 (which I've seen on others)
>is that the color balance is a little to the yellow side. (in NTSC mode)
>---Mike

>>
>>Gege


I use 1080s all the time for video - great monitors really. As for RF
spill, you could glue sheets lead (from a hardware store) to the
inside of the monitor's case. Haven't done this but it should work.
Those rackmount cases are ridiculously priced and appropriate only for
pro studios, IMO.



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From: [e-mail] (your_name_here)
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Subject: Win32s errors
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 19:52:38 +1200
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Hi, I'm getting Win32s errors when I try and render a scene.  Possible
causes?  Possible fixes?  I'm running Lightwave on a DX2 66 with Windows
3.11, 16 Mb RAM, and 256 colour card.  Suggestions appreciated.  Cheers,
Jeremy  <[e-mail]>
Jeremy Belcher

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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In article <4b9rj5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
writes:

>I think these may be that same jokers who were posting a similar
>deal last year. I called ViewPoint about it and they disappeared
>until now. Cock roaches are so hard to kill.

True, but if you turn the light on, they run away.

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Object replacement plugin
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In article <4b9760$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(JBooth411) writes:

>>OK, I give up. Why would NewTek remove a useful plugin with Rev. B
(which
>>I have)?
>>
>>-Marc

>   Cause there NewTek - and they do stupid shit like that all the time.

Oh.  I knew there was a logical explanation....

-Marc


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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Wireframe is DEAD : QuickDraw 3D
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In article <4b8ih5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Brad
Grace ) writes:

>>4.0 eases the testing of surface textures (though they should have
>added a
>>Cube, tube and pyramid option).
>>
>Mine has the Cube, but not the others.  BTW, how would tube and pyramid
>display any info that you are not getting with the sphere and cube???

What version (platform?) of LightWave are you using?  How do you get the
Cube texture sample object?

Curious,
Marc

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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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Subject: Re: Open GL plugin
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>>Tesselation Times (3D Artist newletter)<<

sorry that this is off the subject, but how do you subscribe to this?

thanx
greg


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From: [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld)
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Subject: Re: Free Models
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<snip stuff deleted>
I still don't believe you.  This has scam written all over it.

-- Bob Lindabury
[e-mail]                           The NEW Graphics BBS
http://www.graphics.rent.com               Main line: +1 908/469-0049
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The demo file does indeed allow two objects to be grabbed off the
Datalab's 3D model CDROM. The person has cracked the protection
code for downloading all the objects. It's up to the lawyers
whether this is Kosher. Other companies make products to defeat
dongles on expensive CAD programs and have been advertising and selling
them for years. I guess if you never use the model for a commerical
venture, this individual could justify buying this "crack" according
to his conscience.

    Don    http://www.portal.com/~donrh

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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Subject: Re: Ok, I give up.  What *is* ScreamerNet?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 00:22:24 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Scott Adams) wrote:
>
>    Ok, I've tried just lurking for a while so I can figure out
>  what "Screamernet" is without having to ask.  However, it seems to elude
>  me.  So, as obvious as the answer may be, could someone please tell me:
>
>    What is Screamernet?
>
>    Thanks.  :)
>
>                -Scott A.

ScreamerNet is a batch rendering standalone exec for Lightwave. You can use it
on a single machine to render several scenes in a row by queuing (queueing?)
them or if you are lucky enough to have several machines networked together
the software will share each job among the CPU's - thus speeding up overall
rendering times by however many machines you have. Each frame still takes the
same time, but if 4 machines are rendering the same job it will be done 4
times as quick.

SN has the advantage of not using the Lightwave GUI, so conserving RAM and
usually speednig up the render process by 10% to 30%.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart TAS OZ

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From: [e-mail] ("Glyn Williams")
Subject: Re: Particles (HOLY rendering time!!!)
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>   I need to make a "dust trail" following a vehicle in an animation that
> I'm working on and am experimenting with particles (one point
> polygons). I don't own Sparks, but I've been getting a very nice effect
> with
> lightwave one point polys and some displacement mapping / morphing.  The
> big surprize came at rendering time. HOLY COW, my rendering time went
> through the roof.  The "particle cloud" contatins about 2 thousand
> polygons or so (not toooo many), why is this taking so long to render?
> Is
> it partially due to the fractal noise surfacing that I used?  Also, does
> Sparks happen to make particles render much faster / easier (is it worth
> the price/ram is what I'm asking).  Is there some sort of "particle
> primitive" used in LW rendering, or are particles treated as any other
> polygons.
>
> I'd appreciate any help getting this scene to render faster (I was using
> particles for explosians too, but maybe not with the rendering time
> going
> through the roof).
>

I have found that setting the additive property for particles results in
an explosive increase in render time - which I think is due to the
requirement to depth-sort the particles. This seems especially bad when
the particles are heavily overlapping on screen.

Can't see an easy way around the problem though. I just threw a 6 pentia
at it and waited.

Glyn Williams - from the appropriately named - Particle Systems Ltd.

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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: Re: Open GL plugin
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Andrew Weiler ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] (William A. Mendez ) wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >If many of you are familiar with Tesselation Times (3D Artist
> >newletter) it posted an article that said the Open Gl plugin for
> >Lightwave can be downloaded from Newteks's FTP site.   The site is down
> >as we all know, does any body out there know if the BBS has it?
>
> I just spoke with a NewTek "tek", Powerview won't be available
> till the end of the month, probably later.

Um...I'm using it right now.  The "tek" is wrong.

You can pick up a copy for the Intel or Alpha platforms at

      ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/[pvintel.zip|pvalpha.zip]

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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
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Subject: Re: Mac Syquest question
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[e-mail] (edreams) writes:

>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Frank D.
>>Cocke) wrote:

>>I believe I replied to you before on this.. IT CAN.  Don't listen to
>>anyone that doesn't use a Mac on this question.. they'll deny it because
>>they don't believe it could be that easy to just pop in other media
>>formatted by other systems.

>>And PC Exchange is part of the system software!  Imagine that!  Listen to
>>your dealer.

>What about listening to someone who uses the Amiga?   I've been doing that on
>both PC and Mac disks/hard drives for a few years.   'tis a shame the PC can't
>do this yet.

>Scott

Shame on you, Scott. The pc CAN read (and even write) pc disks and
removable media (most of the time). There are even programs that will
allow you to access (by great effort and pain) mac disks on a pc. Yes,
I know that you can pop a dos or mac disk into the Amiga and read or
write to it transparently, but you can do the same with a pc disk on
a pc (thanking God for Norton Utilities). Get your facts straight.
Sheesh!


Doug Rudd

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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
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Subject: Re: Free Models
Date: 20 Dec 1995 13:27:17 -0700
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[e-mail] (MarcMylar) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Bob Lindabury
><[e-mail]> writes:

>>> COMPUTER GRAPHIC IMAGES & DESIGN INC.
>>> PO BOX 230135
>>> BROOKLYN NY, 11223
>>>
>>> (PLEASE ADD $4.0 FOR SHIPPING AND HANDLING)
>>
>>I still don't believe you.  This has scam written all over it.
>>

>I agree.  I would avoid any "deal" that has a P.O. Box as an address, and
>no telephone number.  Also, the ability to pay by credit card would give
>insurance against getting a product that doesn't deliver.

>-Marc

I think these may be that same jokers who were posting a similar
deal last year. I called ViewPoint about it and they disappeared
until now. Cock roaches are so hard to kill.


Doug Rudd


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 24 bit gfx is so slow
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 16:06:01 GMT
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On 21 Dec 1995 11:51:10 GMT, xxx [e-mail] wrote:

->I bought a Compaq Pentium 133 to do raytracing (Lightwave3d) but I was
->disappointed when I tried 1024x768 with 16 or 24 bits color depth.
->Everything above 256 colors is extremely slow. When I rotate a few
->polygons, my screen update is about 3 frames per second - max. (Sigh)
->I'm using a Matrox card called Q-vision 2000+ (4Mb VRAM) and a 21"
->monitor.
->PLEASE mail me your suggestions, tips and experience!
->When you're using Lightwave, which resolution and color depth do you
->have?

You may just need a "Beefier" Video display card.

Bob


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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Object replacement plugin
Date: 20 Dec 1995 09:38:56 -0500
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In article <4b8c5h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(MarcMylar) writes:

>OK, I give up. Why would NewTek remove a useful plugin with Rev. B (which
>I have)?
>
>-Marc
>
>

   Cause there NewTek - and they do stupid shit like that all the time. I
would greatly apreciate it if someone would email it to me at
[e-mail] or post it to the list. From what I have heard, there
wern't even any bugs with it..

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: [Q] Availability of LW in UK
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In article <4b8men$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () writes:

>1. Is Lightwave 4.0 available for Windows 3.1 (or is it only
>   available for Windows 95)
>
>2. Is it available on CD ROM, or just millions of disks
>
>3. Can I get it easily in the UK.
>
>

1. Yes, it runs under win32s
2. Yes - but it could easily fit on ONE floppy. It's coded very tightly..
3. Probrobly, but I wouldn't know where, as I'm in the USA and don't shop
in the UK often.

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>>I still don't believe you.  This has scam written all over it.
>>
>
>I agree.  I would avoid any "deal" that has a P.O. Box as an address, and
>no telephone number.  Also, the ability to pay by credit card would give
>insurance against getting a product that doesn't deliver.
>
>-Marc

Who cares if it is a good deal or not.  They are either scamming or stealing.

Another curiosity about the original post is that it was only posted in the
Lightwave group.  The Viewpoint CD contains data for 3 or 4 dozen different file
formats, yet the LWers were the chosen ones to be scammed.  Did these people walk
around SIGGRAPH and come to the conclusion that the people standing around the
Newtek booth were the most gullible looking ;-)



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Yeh)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
Date: 15 Dec 1995 11:57:58 -0500
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  If you had a choice to get either 3D Studio 4.0 or Lightwave 3D
for character animation work, which one would you get?  Disregard the
price of both packages.

  Also:  Which one has a better/easier interface?  better rendering
times?  what major features does one have that the other one doesn't?
Which one has better morphing features?

  I'm trying to decide on the two, and price is not an issue here.
I'm asking about character animation because that is what an upcoming
project needs, but character animation is not the only thing I will
be doing.

  Any advice would be great.

--
"The truth is out there..."
        - THE X-FILES
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: [e-mail]

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From: lito <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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To: Sergio Moreno <[e-mail]>

You can get the Open GL dlls for windows 95 from
    http://www.crisis.com/~randybrg/win95/opengldll.zip

Sergio Moreno wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
>         I just downloaded the powerview plugin from
> ftp.graphics.rent.com in the incoming dir, but it needs opengl in the pc and
> alpha version. Anyone knows where i can find the opengl for windows 95?
>
>         i havent checked the amiga version yet.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Sergio Moreno           IBERNET (TTD)

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Polyform
Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:22:07 GMT
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In article <4b5h0s$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <4b407u$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Foust)
>writes:
>>P.S.  It looks and acts completely differently...
>
>But how will I ever know, unless I spend money with your compnay.
>A mistake I made once already. :^)
>
>(See, I put a smiley face on it. not insulted, I hope? };^)>

No, I understand.  The only way to get stuff is to get stuff
for free, and "reviewing" it for a magazine is the easiest
and most respected way of doing that.  Say, you've gotten
free stuff from Syndesis, haven't you?

- John


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:29:12 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Are you worried that support for 95 will hurt NT users somehow?  The
>LW executable is the same file for all three Windows flavors.  And it's
>not like there isn't *room* on the CD for three (or ten) versions of
>everything.

I doubt it.  If anything is filling the CD, it's content.  At one point,
I even remember that NewTek was thinking of placing two entire
copies of all the content on the LW CD because they wanted to
let the Amiga version have the long filenames, and that they had
to re-save the scenes for 8.3 compatibility.

Just try to fill a CD sometime...  it takes forever, unless you
have a big shovel and a big pile.  Five platforms times 2 megs
of executables is barely a dent.  And I'd say there's plenty of
reasons to put only content on CD, and put the rapidly-changing
executables on floppies...

- John


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Subject: Re: PowerView Plugins Available
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:20:00 -0500
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Speaking of the PowerView plug-in (which, BTW, I got off of NewTek's
apparently functional FTP site), every time I use it I get a "Can't get
module handle" error, and then after pressing OK, it seems to work
perfectly. Any thoughts, anyone?
  I'm running Win95 with the OpenGL libraries that were included in
WebSpace.

Adam

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In <[e-mail]>, AMERIO stephane <[e-mail]>
writes:
> Hi,
> I heard about the Matrox Millenium new video card. It seems to
> be 3D accelerated. As the modeller "refresh" is _very_ slow,
> could anybody tell me about the effect of that video card on
> either rendering times or preview (in layout and modeller)
> (I've a P120 with 16Mb under W95).
>
> Thanks in advance.



Hey,

If you get any feedback, drop me a note....I'm looking at getting a 4meg
Matrox card myself....

Thomas


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From: lito <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Toy Story
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:42:27 -0500
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Actually I loved the movie too. I think it was probably one of the best films of all
time (and I am not saying that because it is all computer rendered ;^) But what I loved
most about the film is the attention to detail I saw. Like in the scene when it started
to rain you can see the droplets falling on the window and see the rain drops destorted
and casting realistic shadows like I see comming from my bedroom window. Also all the
out of the house scenes were incredible, specially the trees and plants. If you haven't
seen it yet and are reading this message you are missing some of the greatest CG you
have ever seen.

PMshark wrote:
>
> Have I been in a cave too long or is true that no one has discussed
> anything on-line about Toy Story in this group? I know it wasn't created
> with LW, but I thought the end result was gorgeous.  Not just because of
> the expensive software used, but because of the artistry displayed.  The
> expressions and movements of the characters were terrific.  The story was
> captivating and I even forgot the movie was an animation after the first
> 10 minutes .And of course, the actors were superb.  Toy Story really makes
> me want to dealve deep into character animation with my copy of LW! I
> haven't gotten this excited about a movie since Star Wars.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts or comments about Toy Story?
>
> Happy Holidays
> Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> PJ
> [e-mail]
> Visual Designer
>
> "Look and you will find it--what is unsought will go undetected"
> SOPHOCLES

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From: [e-mail] (BILLINC)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW4.0 for WIN95  - Stability ???
Date: 21 Dec 1995 13:17:04 -0500
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I have had similar problems with modeler crashing inside Win 95. I don't
know what's causing it. I have a pci 486dx-100mhz with 16meg and a gig.

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From: [e-mail] (BrainIsle)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: AMIGA HD BACK-UP
Date: 22 Dec 1995 11:41:25 -0500
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Can anyone suggest a moderately priced tape storage hard drive backup for
the Amiga. Looking to back up around 600Mb with full compatability.
SCSI ok. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance...
-Dennis

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From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Flyer--IFF 2 CLIP (Help Needed ASAP)
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Xref: zippy.cais.net rec.video.desktop:13439 comp.graphics.apps.lightwave:9038 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:44234

I have just created some images in LightWave on the PC---I
have ported them over to my Amiga4000 where I want to make the images
into a FLYER CLIP using the Arexx IFF2CLIP script.  I've only tried it
once a long time ago using Flyer 4.04b software and it worked!!!  Now
in 4.07 I can execute the script, however I see it load each one...but
it never saves the images as a clip????

    Any help is much appreciated ASAP.

    Email me ([e-mail]) or post an answer

Thank You--

Lance Gray
Empire Productions Inc.

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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PowerView Plugins Available
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[e-mail] (D. Scott Ferrin) wrote:
>What do PowerView Plug-Ins do?

  It's a real-time shaded preview for modeler.

  Dan



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Lito wrote:

>     Is this a bug with the Power view plugin or did I do something
> wrong. Every time I run the plugin it always brings up a dialog box
> that says
>         info
>         cannot find module handle

The name of the .P file got changed.  Rename it "pviewigl.p".  Edit
your lwm.cfg to remove the line for the PowerView plug-in, then fire
up Modeler and Add Plugin again.  The problem is that plug-ins have
to use their filenames to get a "handle" that identifies them to
Windows.  If somebody changes the .P filename, it no longer matches
what the plug-in itself thinks it's called.

Other known bugs:

*  Objects are mirror-inverted.  Fori probably needs to convert from
   left-handed (LW) to right-handed coordinates.

*  Modeler crashes when the butterfly object is viewed.  This is a
   bug in the Modeler plug-in interface, which doesn't handle detail
   polygons correctly.  Won't be fixed soon.

*  When moved, the PowerView window erases the Modeler window.  If
   this isn't another manifestation of the handle problem, it might
   mean that PowerView is using its own message loop, rather than
   Modeler's.

Keep in mind that this is a beta version.

- Ernie



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From: [e-mail] (JBAXT3D)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Perception Optimize??????????
Date: 21 Dec 1995 14:12:50 -0500
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Has anyone had a problem with optimize in Perception? Everytime we
optimize it destroyes all the files. Has anyone else had this problem?

Jeff Baxter
3D Animation Director
Stewart Digital Video
[phone]
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From: Brian - Hoffman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PowerView Works Under Windows 95
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:17:06 -0800 (PST)
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For those wondering whether or not PowerView will work under
Windows 95, the simple answer is yes.  I have it working on
my P100 system now with no problems. (Other than those already
documented by NT based PowerView users.  Mirrored geometry,
crashing on "Butterfly.lwo" object, and so on.)

All you need to do is copy the appropriate DLL's to your
Windows\System directory, then install the PowerView plug-in
into Modeler.  You should rename 'Pviewgl.p' to 'Pviewigl.p
before installing into Modeler.  This will prevent the
appearance of the "Can't get handle..." warning message
every time you run the plug-in.

The DLL's you need are 'Opengl32.dll' and 'Glu32.dll'.

I obtained them from the following web page:

   http://www.snafu.de/~hg/  (Thanks to Paul Davies for this tip.)


Hope this is helpfull to someone..


-Brian Hoffman  ([e-mail])


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I just installed another 64MB RAm to my system (brings me up to 128MB RAM).  NT
does not see it, only the first 64MB.  I re-installed NT3.51, it asked if I
wanted to update and I did.  My dealer suggested that I do a fresh install of NT
but he is checking on another fix.  Any suggestions before I waste time doing a
re-install? Thanks.

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From: [e-mail] (D. Scott Ferrin)
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Subject: Re: PowerView Plugins Available
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What do PowerView Plug-Ins do?


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[e-mail] (Kevin Mccabe) wrote:

>For those who haven't heard of the new arrival on the digital scene,
>it's the Sony (DX1000) Digital Camcorder.  Check the latest VTU magazine
>for an excellent review.  My question is this:  Has anyone heard of any
>third party hardware or Newtek alliance with Sony's digital signal
>protocol (IEEE 1394) and the Flyer.  This concept was mentioned in the
>article, and I'm very interested.  I love the digital revolution!

>     Anim  [e-mail]


Kevin:

    Yeah I have heard of all kind of rumers. Unfortunitly if you are
looking fro NewTek to do it, I wouldn't count on even seeing it untill
NEXT NAB (97). So we can only hope for a third party to develop
something.... Any takers?

Brad Hayes




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From: [e-mail] (John McKenzie)
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Larry Eisenhower ([e-mail]);

 Yep. That will run it. Get more RAM when you can as one always needs
more RAM, and windows is such a system resources hog and all, but yes that
can run lightwave. If you want to do serious/profesional stuff you will
be wanting more RAM quickly, but yes, that system will run lightwave fine
and dandy.

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From: Sergio Moreno <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PoverView plugin for modeler
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Hi all

    I just downloaded the powerview plugin from
ftp.graphics.rent.com in the incoming dir, but it needs opengl in the pc and
alpha version. Anyone knows where i can find the opengl for windows 95?

    i havent checked the amiga version yet.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        Sergio Moreno        IBERNET (TTD)


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Is there a user group in Vancouver? If not is there anyone
interested in starting one?

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: PowerView Works Under Windows 95
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In article
<[e-mail]>, Brian -
Hoffman <[e-mail]> writes:

>For those wondering whether or not PowerView will work under
>Windows 95, the simple answer is yes.

So should I assume that it *doesn't* run under Windows 3.1?

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin)
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On Dec 23, 1995 03:08:08 in article <PLEASE HELP! LW4.0 for Win
(animation)>, '[e-mail] (Ray Dyer)' wrote:


this is simply explained in the manual.
Unless you have a cracked copy of lightwave??
because configuring the anims is one of the simplest things
about LW.
>
>I just got hold of Lightwave 4.0 for Windows. I can't figure out how to
make
>animations. I go under the record menu and click on "ANIMATION TYPE" it
just
>keeps on saying "none". Thank you for helping me with this.
>
>                      [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Action Jackson)
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Mario Heliczer <marioh> wrote:

>I know of a 3D scanner... but it's on Amiga...

>Don't mention it...
>if ya can't find anything better: reply & I'll tell where to get it from.

>Mario Heliczer

Can you tell me what it is and where to get hold of it?



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Adams) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Scott Adams)
>Subject: Ok, I give up.  What *is* ScreamerNet?
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:57:45 GMT


>        Ok, I've tried just lurking for a while so I can figure out
>  what "Screamernet" is without having to ask.  However, it seems to elude
>  me.  So, as obvious as the answer may be, could someone please tell me:
>
>        What is Screamernet?

>        Thanks.  :)

>                                -Scott A.
>--

Screamernet is a render only module that will render a LW scene without a
dongle.  Its intended purpose is to allow a network of PCs to work on the same
scene file without each PC requiring a dongle.  Screamernet has almost no
interface.  It runs as a DOS program in a DOS box.  It requires a control
program to tell it what to do.  The only control program right now that I know
of is the one included as part of the Layout portion of LightWave.  You could
theoretically have something like 1000 machines working on a scene (or a
series of scenes) at the same time. It is included with your LightWave
purchase.

As a side benefit, it has been noticed that it is faster (almost always) to
render using Screamernet than to render using Layout.  There is an added
benefit that the control panel in Layout lets you set up a batch of scenes to
render.  A network is not required.  You can run a module on a single
computer.  In fact, I understand you can run two modules on a dual Pentium.
I haven't seen this confirmed yet though.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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WEll...
Thanks for all the help.  Whoever said something about motherboards being
cheap was wrong.
Here's a question, though:  Can I plug in the dongle to the server on my
network, and use lightwave locally on my computer?  If so, then that's
what I'll do.. but will it work?
Thanks

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From: Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
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[e-mail] (Graeme Turner) wrote:
>>price of both packages.
>
>Hi
>
>
>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated CAD
>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>
>Definately go for LW if you want to produce realistic animation
>

I think you hit the nail on the head! I was recently involved
with a studio that uses 3dS exclusively, and I can't get over
the look it gives (negative) to all their work. I still think
that the most important tool you'll ever use is your own
imagination and talent, regardless of the  software you use.

Andrew Weiler




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Mark A Cohen ([e-mail]):

 I too have been needing this info, so I would appreciate it if anyone
else would post, but I will tell you what I do know;

 The parrell port Zip states in the manuel that it will not work with
Macs, you must get a SCSI one... I would assume this would apply to SCSI
Amigas, but you didn't say which type you had.

 All the local Amiga gurus said they did not have experience doing it but
could not think of a reason why the parrell port version would work with
my A3000.

 There are Amigazip tools. All the Amiga magazines reviewed Zip drives
and did so on Amigas, of course. However I do not know where you could
find them. The best I can do for you is point you in the direction of a
commercial Zip driver and tools for the Amiga. Email Oregon Research and
ask them about it.  I _think_ the address is [e-mail].

Sorry I couldn't be more helpfull. Please post or email me or something
if you find out more. Thanks.



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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[e-mail] (BrainIsle) wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a moderately priced tape storage hard drive backup for
> the Amiga. Looking to back up around 600Mb with full compatability.
> SCSI ok. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance...

I don't know if this qualifies as "moderate", but you can get a small
SCSI DAT drive these days for $700-ish new if you shop around, or maybe
$450-500 used.  It'll store nominally 2 Gb, and up to 4 Gb compressed.
I have one on my A4000 and love it, both for backups and for off-line
storage of large things.  For a few hundred more you can get an 8 Gb DAT
drive.  But basically, almost any SCSI tape you can find should work
fine with the Amiga and BTN-Tape.

(Its nice to get a backup that can hold more on one media than your
current drive space, in case you get more space and still want to do
unattended nightly archive backups).

(It might be better to ask about this on c.s.a.hardware instead of
c.g.a.lightwave...)

Hope this helps,

  - steve

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->I'm selling one of my Amiga systems:
->
->A2000
->1084s Monitor
->GVP 040/33/12mb
->2mb Agnus
->OS 3.1
->Picasso II 24-bit board
->540mb HD
->50mb HD
->Keyboard/Mouse
->all cables, etc.
->
->I'm asking 1700.00 and will deliver/setup within 50 miles of Albany, New York.


I've reduced it to $1500.00 (U.S. $$)


->Make me an offer and we'll talk.
->Bob


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Subject: WTB:  Lightwave for INTEL
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I'm interested in purchasing (used) the INTEL version of LightWave from NewTek.

Anyone Interested in selling thier packages (must be complete, sans registration
card is ok), please email me directly or respond here at:

    comp.graphics.apps.lightwave

Thanks,

Bob

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On Dec 19, 1995 23:05:55 in article <Saving animations and stills>,
'[e-mail] (Larry Eisenhower)' wrote:



Do You have have a manual or are you running an illegal copy??

these questions are quickly answered in a glance at the manual.

>Hello, I just recently got Lightwave 4.0, and I have a couple of
>questions:
>
>1.  I am running Win95, should I choose install win32s or winNT during
>install?
>
>2.  How do I output just a single frame of a scene to a graphics file,
>and if there is a way, what format does it save as?
>
>3.  How can I get an animation to save as an *.avi file?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.

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On Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:15:20 -0500, Ernie Wright
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Lito wrote:
>
>>     Is this a bug with the Power view plugin or did I do something
>> wrong. Every time I run the plugin it always brings up a dialog box
>> that says
>>         info
>>         cannot find module handle
>
>The name of the .P file got changed.  Rename it "pviewigl.p".  Edit
>your lwm.cfg to remove the line for the PowerView plug-in, then fire
>up Modeler and Add Plugin again.  The problem is that plug-ins have
>to use their filenames to get a "handle" that identifies them to
>Windows.  If somebody changes the .P filename, it no longer matches
>what the plug-in itself thinks it's called.
>
>Other known bugs:
>
>*  Objects are mirror-inverted.  Fori probably needs to convert from
>   left-handed (LW) to right-handed coordinates.
>
>*  Modeler crashes when the butterfly object is viewed.  This is a
>   bug in the Modeler plug-in interface, which doesn't handle detail
>   polygons correctly.  Won't be fixed soon.
>
>*  When moved, the PowerView window erases the Modeler window.  If
>   this isn't another manifestation of the handle problem, it might
>   mean that PowerView is using its own message loop, rather than
>   Modeler's.
>
>Keep in mind that this is a beta version.
>
>- Ernie
>
>
When I click on add plugin in modeler, then go to run the plugin
nothing shows up, nothing happens. any guesses?


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In article <4bg0te$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Michael Justin Austin) writes:

>this is simply explained in the manual.
>Unless you have a cracked copy of lightwave??
>because configuring the anims is one of the simplest things
>about LW.

     Although your answer is not entirely true (avi saver hell threads
prove it so) - I have also noticed a huge number of 'possable' pirates
posting questions like these in the last few weeks. My guess is that
lightwave 4.0 is making its rounds in the cracked form. I, for one, have
mixed feelings about this - as if I had never played with a cracked
version years ago, I would not own it now, would not be working the great
job I have now, and would probrobly still be using Imagine 2.0 that I
spent $220 on only to see it come out on a cover disk the next month.
However, I never had the gaul to ask questions on the newsgroups about
simple things that were no doubt in the manual. I figured it out untill
the point where I realized it was vastly superior to Imagine in terms of
user interface, and that I would never be able to return. So I bought the
program and have never regreted it for a moment. Hopefully, some of these
people have the morals to buy any program they use, and will buy lightwave
if they like it. But alas, all we can do is weed them out of our
newsgroup.... Unfortunatly, most people figure if they already have it,
why buy it.. Personaly, I'd like to see lightwave developement continue,
so they got my money...


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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Digital Handycam ----> Flyer connection
Date: 23 Dec 1995 11:53:34 -0500
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In article <4bgekm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Brad
Hayes) writes:

>Kevin:
>
>    Yeah I have heard of all kind of rumers. Unfortunitly if you are
>looking fro NewTek to do it, I wouldn't count on even seeing it untill
>NEXT NAB (97). So we can only hope for a third party to develop
>something.... Any takers?
>
>

    with it shipping just 4-6 weeks after that!!!!

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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PowerView Plugins Available
Date: 22 Dec 1995 03:12:54 GMT
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>Where else is the Intel version??

    NewTek BBS has the PowerView Plug-In.
    Look under the LightWave section,
    Patches
    ant the file is PVINTEL.ZIP.

    Kinda buggy... but working.

    Very cool.

    Dan Ablan

    AGA Digital Studios
    Chicago
    http://www.mcs.com/~dma/home.html


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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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Subject: Re: PowerView Plugins Available
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Hmm.. ftp.graphics.rent,com gives nothing but errors (connects though)..
and the amiga and alpha versions are on the newsgroups, but not the intel!
Thats got to be a first.. could you mail me with the intel, or post it to
the group again!?!?!
    thanks!


Jason Booth
 "I'm programing a raytracer that only outputs in ASCII art! I'LL BE
RICH!!!!"



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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: =======WHAT'S A GOOD BOOK INSTEAD OF THE LIGHTWAVE 4.0 MANUAL==========
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In article <4bdf03$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>Is there any "Companion" or other book that would be good instead of a
>manual or something even better?
>
>Also is there any online documentation?

    Gee, I hate to sound like John Foust, but where's your manual? The new
4.0 manual is excellent, and should get you started quite nicely.. And no,
there is no online documentation.. It's just with the crack being posted
and requested on the newsgroup at least twice a week, I begin to get a
little ticked...
    If you own the program, check out the Lee Stranahan tapes. There for
version 3.5, but everything still aplies, and I've always thought his
explanations were the clearest, and simplest. Also, the Mark Thompson (sp,
once again..?) tapes are amazing! Video is the way to go, over books, any
day... at least for learning such a visual program as lightwave is..



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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Blaise Fanning wrote:

> Hold on, Buckaroo!  Intel is most definitely little-endian!

Just saw this post today (21 Dec).  See my mea culpa on this topic,
posted 10 Dec.  Geez, Blaise.  "Buckaroo"?  That hurts.

> The PowerPC and MIPS families are bi-endian, meaning that they can
> support either, and the Intel and Alpha processors are little-endian
> only.

I'm told Alpha can also go either way.

BTW, I've never like the Swiftian byte order terminology.  "-endian"
always makes me think we're talking about the *last* byte (the one at
the highest address), and the nonce formation "bi-endian" just looks
like a typo.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (DAN BLOOMFIELD)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Why the 1000 object limit?
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-> From: "David S. McFalls" <[e-mail]>
-> I've been a lurker at the newsgroup for some time, and I've often
-> received valuable insights here.  I've been modelling a city scape
-> and ran into heap runtime errors in layout.  After talking to Jon
-> Tindall regarding Sparks and, eventually through the NewTek tech
-> support system, I determined that I was running into a limit not
-> described in Appendix F in the Reference Manual ==> there seems to be
-> a 1000 object limit in layout.
->
-> The way I've been modelling structures assumes an object oriented
-> world contruction mentality.  I need 10^^5 or 10^^6 objects, or, let
-> it be limited by how much I care to spend on RAM.
->
-> Consolidating structures back in modeller will buy me some time, but
-> will not allow me a large scope city-scape.  I'm hoping someone can
-> suggest possible solutions -- either hope for a Lightwave update
-> without this limit, or another rendering engine without this limit.
-> Frightful frame rendering times are not yet an obstacle.  There will
-> always be more compute power or faster machines available for a
-> price.
This limit also has been highly annoying to me, and not being a
programmer I don't have the slightest clue why it is there. The main
problem with it in my view is that is that it prevents the use of
complex particle system animations where you could easily use thousands
of single point polygon objects. In your situation the easiest thing to
do is probably to combine a number of objects in Modeler, although there
is also a polygon limit per object, or at least there used to be, I
haven't tested it in 4.0. Another work around would be to save scenes
with only portions of your objects and render in layers, saving the
alpha channels and comping the rendered frames back together.

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From: Bruce Branit <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Metaform problems
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:58:14 -0600
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> In article <4a0bhn$[e-mail]> Archie Jones <[e-mail]> writes:
> >From: Archie Jones <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: Re: Metaform problems
>
> >     You were right about the non-planer polygons but I am
> >still having problems with the metaform function.  This is what
> >I do:
>
> >1)  After my rough model is constructed I select all non-planer
> >polygons and triple them.  At this point my model has no
> >non-planer polygons.
>
> >2)  I then apply the metaform function to the model.  Now my
> >model looks the way I want it to but is full, and I mean real
> >full, of non-planer polygons.
>
> >    If I now triple the polygons again I end up with an
> >unacceptable number of polygons.  Is there a way to use the
> >metaform function without producing more non-planer polygons?
>
> >Thanks in advance,

there are a couple of other things you might keep in mind:

1) Don't worry about the non-planar polygons before you metaform. Worry about the >4
pt polygons. Where possible (and if there aren't a ton of >4pt polys) don't let
Modeler triple them. Use 'Split' to divide them up more logically and evenly than
Modeller tends to do.

2) When you are ready to metaform choose the new surface 'Options' under the Object
panel and change 'Polygons' from Automatic or Quadrangles to Triangles, this will
cause any subsequent 'polygon creating operation' to create 3pt polys, including
metaform.

______________________________________________________
Bruce W. Branit - Lawrence, KS
[e-mail]
http://www.idir.net/~bbranit/bb.html
______________________________________________________

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From: Brian Lutt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Looking for METABALL type modeller for LW.
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:57:10 -0800
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I am looking for a metaball type modeller for lightwave. Have you seen
 some of the work done with METABALL plugin for 3DStudio, it looks pretty
 good. Someone modeled a tyranasaurus rex and one of those face-huggers
from ALIENS, anyway I am interested in playing with one of those BLOB
programs any help..   Also I'm having trouble FTP'ing into
ftp.tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu anybody else having problems. I NEED HELP.


                                THANKS

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>+-- [e-mail] (Iain Young) writes:
>| NT is quite nice if you have LOADS of memory, (ie 32mb+), but I don't
>| think it will ever catch on for the home user as it requires a very
>| powerful machine to get the most out of it.
>
>Just to give an alternate viewpoint, I have a 486-66 with 16 megs of
>RAM and run NT all the time.  I compile, debug, edit files, read mail,
>compose graphics and images, and of course do 3D stuff with LightWave
>and I never have a problem.

I once had a similar setup, then I added another 16 megs, and
the performance improvement was so dramatic, I smacked myself upside
the head for being so frugal.  Then I upgraded to a P-133 with 32 meg
of EDO, and underwent yet another smack.  Adding 16 megs to a 486/66
was certainly less expensive.

Hey, I've got a spare 16 meg of 70 nsec 30-pin SIMMs, wanna buy them?

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
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Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller ! Get a Clue!!!!
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
>Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller !
>Date: 16 Dec 1995 01:40:11 -0700

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Barrilleaux) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Scott Barrilleaux)
>>Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller !
>>Date: 13 Dec 95 17:40:53 -0800

>>Could anyone at Newtek give us an explaination as to why screen
>>refresh in modeler is so slow.  I have Truespace and Imagine and both
>>of them are much much faster redrawing the screen.  It's poor
>>programing.  I have an ati turbo pro with 4 megs and everything else
>>flys.

>>scott

What is this us shit.... you must make alot of money if you are whining about
a little extra redraw time....   I run LW4 on a p75 32megs ram ...  64bit
vidcard... with 2 on board.....  and lightwave runs just fine.... so what if
it takes 10 secs instead of 7 secs to redraw the screen......  If it is so
improtant that you need to complain about it then maybe you should not use it.

As for Truespace it is a dog....  Get your vert or polygon count up there and
it will slow down....  you'll then have to flame Calgri.(pardon the spelling)

just my 50 bucks worth....
checks in the mail...

Michael


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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Re: Open GL plugin
Date: 22 Dec 1995 00:08:57 -0500
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That's strange.  I downloaded it today and it works pretty well!  I'm
impressed with what Fori's made.

Modeler will never be the same.

>I just spoke with a NewTek "tek", Powerview won't be available
>till the end of the month, probably later.

>Andrew Weiler

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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TPeirce9 wrote:
>
> That's right--the FTP site is empty.  Where else is the Intel version??

 I saw the intel version in the root directory of ftp.graphics.rent.com

it occures directly after the incomming directory..looks like it was misplaced

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From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Do optical system models work with refraction on?
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Has anyone modeled a lens for a camera, binoculars, or a telescope
with refraction turned on?  How about a reflecting telescope?

-Thanks

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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium
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I put a Millenium in my machine today for use with PowerView in Windows NT
Intel.  I believe I have all the drivers and settings correct but the
results are no different than the Stealth 64 2 MVRAM so far.  I am waiting
to hear from Matrox about the non-performance gain with OpenGL.


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: =======WHAT'S A GOOD BOOK INSTEAD OF THE LIGHTWAVE 4.0 MANUAL==========
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Is there any "Companion" or other book that would be good instead of a
manual or something even better?

Also is there any online documentation?

Thanx


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From: Jan Kronekvist <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Palettes for PC
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Hi!

I use LightWave 4.0 for PC, and have the following problem:

At the end I want to have my animation in MPEG format. To get
this I need a 256 color output from lightwave. (If I use more
colors I get problem running the MPEG file on some MPEG cards).

If I save my animation from lightwave in AVI I think I get 256
colors, but i don't like the palette LW uses. It must be somekind of
fixed palette (system?). Anyway it does not look good.

Is it somehow possible to tell LW which palette to use?

If not, is there any program that converts 16 bit bitmap sequenses
to 256 color avi or flic with a custom palette?

I read in the LW manual that it should be possible to save the
animations in flic format but on my computer it is only possible
to save it in AVI. Anyway I suppose the FLIC format would give
me the same palette problem.

Could anyone help me with this problem?


Kindly regards Jan

Jan Kronekvist
email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:56:38 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
S. Spitler) writes:

>my polygon counts were..
>NCC1701D_3DS = 12,758
>NCC1701D_LW4 = 3,301
>
>as you can see it is a huge improvement in the LW4 model...
>oh, by the way both of my models look identical.....

    Remember also that it would be a lot closer if 3ds supported
npolygons.

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From: [e-mail] (JKrause357)
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Subject: WTB: LIGHTWAVE
Date: 23 Dec 1995 10:00:13 -0500
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WANT TO BUY AMIGA 4000 W/TOASTER 4000
THANK JOE KRAUSE


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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: NEW VIDEO PLAYBACK BOARD!! Quadrant QMotion PCI
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:29:23 +0000
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The Quadrant Q-Motion boardis now available in a PCI configuration

$899- Board only
$999- Board and some editing software
$1,099- Board, Adobe PhotoShop LE, Premier LE, CeQuadrant Pixel Shrink

Playback: 640x480 at 60 feilds per second
           Motion J-Peg compression as low as 6:1
          NTSC,PAL,Secam,Composite, S-Video

Capture

  NTSC 640x480 30 frames per second 60 feilds

  PAL  768x576 25frames persecond, 50 feildsper second

PCI Data rate

Max burst 132megs/second
Max Sustained data rate: 3.75 MB/sec

AV hard drive reccommended...

Select Solutions shuld have them...This looks like an interesting alternative to the
PVR..but probably doesn't outshine the PVR...i'll let ya all know when i take a look
at it in person,.,

Adam

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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:05:29
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This is probably not the best time to be buying a 3-D accelerator card.

The new generation of consumer cards will most likely be on the shelves in the
first 2-3 months of '96, and will probably be instantly obsolete the moment
they go on sale, as there's a new generation.

The new cards will be more powerful, will support more different software
acceleration schemes, and will probably be cheaper.







Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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places some part of the world in jeopardy."
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From: [e-mail] (edreams)
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>[e-mail] (edreams) writes:


>Shame on you, Scott. The pc CAN read (and even write) pc disks and
>removable media (most of the time). There are even programs that will
>allow you to access (by great effort and pain) mac disks on a pc. Yes,
>I know that you can pop a dos or mac disk into the Amiga and read or
>write to it transparently, but you can do the same with a pc disk on
>a pc (thanking God for Norton Utilities). Get your facts straight.
>Sheesh!


>Doug Rudd


I stand corrected.  I had not encountered much success in getting PC's to read
pc disks on a regular basis.  Guess I need Nortons... ;)




Scott Bragg, Owner/Animator       **********************************
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From: John Brandwood <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
Date: 22 Dec 1995 10:29:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (Iain Young) wrote:

>My win95 machine hangs much less than my NT3.51 machine

Since one of NT's major claimed advantages is its enhanced protection
against rogue programs, I'd be very interested in hearing what you
are doing to make NT crash.

Oh, and did you apply the bug-fix service packs (SP3 has just been
released) ?

Or are you referring to applications like LightWave crashing, but still
leaving the NT system up and running ?

>>system down a considerable amount.  Windows '95 lack the ability to do
>>multi-threading, so when real 32-bit multithreaded apps come out
>>you'll notice a major difference.  Most 32-bit apps currently do not
>>take advantage of NT but they are starting to appear.  3DS Max is one
>>that will take advantage of Multi-threading, which means you should be
>>able to render more than one scene at a time (at least you should be
>>based on your memory).
>
>Hmmm, I wonder how much memory you are talking about. I have 32Mb in
>both my NT and Win95 machines. The NT machine runs out of memory very
>quickly if I try do do a complex scene, (much quicker than win95).

As far as I'm aware Win95 has multithreading too. Thats the whole point
of the Win32 application programming interface. All platforms provide
basically the same features to the programmer; which is also how come
the 32-bit version of LightWave can run on both Win95 and WinNT.

NT runs out of memory quicker because the NT system requires more
memory than the Win95 system, leaving less for applications like
LightWave to run in. This is a well known and understood fact, and
is one of the penalties that you have to pay for the advantages
that NT offers. If you don't need these features, or can't afford
the extra RAM and processing power needed to run NT, then use
Win95 instead.

Personally, I expect that 32MB would be fine for LW running under
Win95, but the same memory was feeling a little cramped under NT on
my PC, and so I ordered an upgrade to 48MB which just arrived today.

>As I said above, my 32mb NT machine runs out of memory running normal
>16bit apps, so how much memory will you need in order to do anything
>decent on the new 32bit apps? And how many home users will be able to
>afford this extra memory required? Win95 is aimed at the home user who
>can't afford a ninja pc, and it will always be so.
>
>NT is quite nice if you have LOADS of memory, (ie 32mb+), but I don't
>think it will ever catch on for the home user as it requires a very
>powerful machine to get the most out of it.

This is the whole point. With its price point and system requirements
NT is not aimed at the home user. At least not at the moment. It is
aimed at the professional user who can justify the increased costs
in running it.

If you look at Win95's requirements today, then 3-5 years ago the home
user would not have been willing to pay the price to run it.

In 3-5 years time, hardware prices will have dropped, and NT's
requirements will no longer seem so excessive compared to its
benefits, and it will be the home system.

John.



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From: [e-mail] (Laser)
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Subject: Cursors for Win95?
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I have been trying to create cursors for win95. Is there some program
out there shareware or not, that would allow me to get started. Any help
would be appreciated. Wanna do it bad:)

Thanks

Dan


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Pentium w/ Lightwave 4.0 questions
Date: 20 Dec 1995 21:24:18 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Larry Eisenhower) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Larry Eisenhower)
>Subject: Pentium w/ Lightwave 4.0 questions
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 23:14:46 GMT

>Is it feasible to run Lightwave 4.0 running on win95 on my Pentium 75,
>w/ 16MB ram?  It seems to run a little slow, but I have nothing to
>compare it to.  Can anyone help me out on this, by telling me if my
>machine will run lightwave.  Any help is appreciated, thanks.

I run LW on a DX4-100 with 16mb Ram (though not very often) so I presume your
configuration is perfectly adequate.  Note adequate is not optimum.  You don't
say specifically what it is that is slow, so I can't really volunteer much
more.  Most people strongly suggest 32mb as a starting point.  But since I
don't know how complex your scenes are, I am not going to jump to the
conclusion that lack of RAM is your problem.

P.S. As has been mentioned many times before, you can improve rendering speed
by 20-30% by using screamernet on a standalone machine.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Ok, I give up.  What *is* ScreamerNet?
Date: 20 Dec 1995 21:34:20 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Adams) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Scott Adams)
>Subject: Ok, I give up.  What *is* ScreamerNet?
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:57:45 GMT


>        Ok, I've tried just lurking for a while so I can figure out
>  what "Screamernet" is without having to ask.  However, it seems to elude
>  me.  So, as obvious as the answer may be, could someone please tell me:
>
>        What is Screamernet?

>        Thanks.  :)

>                                -Scott A.
>--

Screamernet is a render only module that will render a LW scene without a
dongle.  Its intended purpose is to allow a network of PCs to work on the same
scene file without each PC requiring a dongle.  Screamernet has almost no
interface.  It runs as a DOS program in a DOS box.  It requires a control
program to tell it what to do.  The only control program right now that I know
of is the one included as part of the Layout portion of LightWave.  You could
theoretically have something like 1000 machines working on a scene (or a
series of scenes) at the same time. It is included with your LightWave
purchase.

As a side benefit, it has been noticed that it is faster (almost always) to
render using Screamernet than to render using Layout.  There is an added
benefit that the control panel in Layout lets you set up a batch of scenes to
render.  A network is not required.  You can run a module on a single
computer.  In fact, I understand you can run two modules on a dual Pentium.
I haven't seen this confirmed yet though.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: LWave PC: How many still in 8.3 Hell?
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In article <4b7l5e$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Carp3D) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Carp3D)
>Subject: Re: LWave PC: How many still in 8.3 Hell?
>Date: 19 Dec 1995 19:25:18 -0500

>The only thing 3.1 is good for is loading lightwave onto your PC then
>you'd better upgrade to win 95 or NT. Things don't run as well and
>Screamer net dosent run at all.  Why punish yourself??
>Carp3D  Editor/Animator...
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Screamernet does run under Windows 3.1.  You don't see a DOS box, but if you
go back to the Screamernet Panel in Layout, you will find that your CPU will
detected (if you set it up correctly).  It doesn't operate as smoothly.
Shutting down a Screamernet session can be a pain.  Win 95 and Win NT are
better for running it, but it does run under Win 3.1.


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Tron)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Problems with LightWave
Date: 19 Dec 1995 15:59:28 GMT
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I am new to LightWave, and I'm having some problems with it.  I am running
LightWave 3D version 4.0 for Win32s on a Windows '95 pentium machine.

I have create a model for a plastic bottle and a cap that fits on top of
the bottle.  I have loaded these objects into Layout and made the bottle
object a parent of the cap object.  I assigned two bones to the bottle,
one at the base of the bottle and another at the top of the bottle.  I
used the bone at the top of the bottle to make the bottle bend over to one
side, but when I do this, the cap doesn't move, even though the bottle is
its parent.  Does anyone know why?

Also, I can't figure out how to save any animation.  What format does
LightWave save animation in?  Can it create .AVI files?  I went to the
Record panel in Layout and specified a file name for my animation, but
when I render, it never gets saved.  The only choice I had for animation
type in the Record panel was "none".  That might have something to do with
it.  If so, how do I specify a different animation type?
--
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From: [e-mail] (Benjamin Carver)
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Best offer takes every issue published=valuable information that has
helped me on numerous job's.


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From: [e-mail] (Ulfers D)
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Subject: Help! Can't Open Lightwave NT!
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I've had it running before but for some reason I can't get LW to open
tonight! When I launch Modeler I receive "Startup Failure 212: Hardware
Key Not Found" and when I launch LW I get "Lightwave initialization
Failure".

I've double checked the Hardware lock key to make sure it's seated. My
printer works throught the key. I've tried w/ and w/o the printer hooked
up. And I've tried re-installing the Driver for the Hardware lock.
However, when I try installing the driver (setupx86.exe) I receive the
error "Can't copy D:WIN_NT\SNT\386.DLL to C:WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SNTI386.DLL"
I've even tried re-installing LW, but to no avail.

I've just got windows NT a week ago and I'm still getting familiar w/ the
OS.  I'm guessing it may the the physical key :(  Any Ideas?

Thanks,  Dave Ulfers

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From: "Justin S. Barrett" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Expanding Motions?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 00:20:05 +0000
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Dirk Taggesell wrote:

> Now I would be glad if I could expand the auto-repeating motion to a
> normal motion path (with keyframes for each up-down cycle: 0 down, 5
> up, 10 down, 15 up and so on...) so that I can edit the motion path at
> some frames to perform another motion.

Here's a pretty simple way.  Go into the motion graph, and first
change the End Behavior to "None" (or whatever it normally defaults
to).  Then go to the keyframe you want to copy.  Hit enter, and type
the keyframe number that you want to create.  For example, if you
want to duplicate frame 10 at frame 20, highlight frame 10, hit
Enter, type 20, and Enter again to finish the job.  The new keyframe
will be highlighted and have all the same values as the old one.  If
you want more than one copy, hit Enter again, type the next keyframe
you want, and Enter to make it.

That's one really handy thing about the motion graph.  Any new
keyframe that is made has all the same values as the keyframe
currently highlighted, so making lots of duplicates doesn't take
very long.

--
Justin Barrett
[e-mail]
Free Spirit Productions

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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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On Thu, 21 Dec 1995 21:45:12 GMT, [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
wrote:

>+-- [e-mail] (Iain Young) writes:
>| NT is quite nice if you have LOADS of memory, (ie 32mb+), but I don't
>| think it will ever catch on for the home user as it requires a very
>| powerful machine to get the most out of it.
>
>Just to give an alternate viewpoint, I have a 486-66 with 16 megs of
>RAM and run NT all the time.  I compile, debug, edit files, read mail,
>compose graphics and images, and of course do 3D stuff with LightWave
>and I never have a problem.  I prefer its stability over other MS
>operating systems.  The only time I have a problem is when I'm working
>on a large object in Modeler with the debugger running, or when I try
>to render a very intensive scene.  In those cases it pages like crazy,
>although it often settles down after a while when it picks a good
>working set.  Otherwise I'm prefectly content.
>--
>    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
>        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"
But Stuart, we gotta know???
Is Lw going to be fixed for 95 and the mem leak plugged?


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Subject: Re: PowerView Works Under Windows 95
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 03:13:16 -0800
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Brian - Hoffman wrote:
>
> For those wondering whether or not PowerView will work under
> Windows 95, the simple answer is yes.  I have it working on
> my P100 system now with no problems. (Other than those already
> documented by NT based PowerView users.  Mirrored geometry,
> crashing on "Butterfly.lwo" object, and so on.)
>
> All you need to do is copy the appropriate DLL's to your
> Windows\System directory, then install the PowerView plug-in
> into Modeler.  You should rename 'Pviewgl.p' to 'Pviewigl.p
> before installing into Modeler.  This will prevent the
> appearance of the "Can't get handle..." warning message
> every time you run the plug-in.
>
> The DLL's you need are 'Opengl32.dll' and 'Glu32.dll'.
>
> I obtained them from the following web page:
>
>    http://www.snafu.de/~hg/  (Thanks to Paul Davies for this tip.)
>
> Hope this is helpfull to someone..
>
> -Brian Hoffman  ([e-mail])


Brian et.al.

Thanks for all the tips.  I've have Powerview working because of
all the information gathered in this group. (Though it doesn't want to
kick in all the time and yes, it has frozen the system once or twice)

I think Fori has produced a wonderful tool that is instantly and
constantly useful.  What's next?

Dick De Jong

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PowerView Bugs?
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:48:44 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:


>When I click on add plugin in modeler, then go to run the plugin
>nothing shows up, nothing happens. any guesses?

Look in the 'Tools' panel then the 'Custom' pop up menu.

Dave



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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PowerView Pluginss Available
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:40:25 +0000
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Opps..I goofed..All the power view plugins are in the incomming
directory at ftp.graphics.rent.com

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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Subject: Re: New DEC Alpha prices
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:52:49 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dan Lutz) wrote:

>Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
>275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

>$3695!!!!

>Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
>1.44 floppy, 1 Gig fast SCSI 2 HD, 2X CD-ROM, Diamond PCI 2 MB graphics card,
>Keyboard, Mouse, 2MB cache, and more.

>Just thought everyone would like to know.

>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone from Anti Gravity

>Prices effective Jan 1, 1996



>--
>                                             [e-mail]

Wow! No mention of the amount of, all important, RAM.

With no RAM you could probably get very close to this price from most
suppliers.

Dave



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Ouputing VRML?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 19:07:04 GMT
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On 16 Dec 1995 01:39:28 -0700, [e-mail] (Richard Garrison)
wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>   "Thomas M. Schaefer" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Here is a piece I picked up at http://www.iworld.com :
>>________________________
>>Content developers can create new spaces by using Microsoft's V-Chat
>>software development kit (SDK), available by email
>>from [e-mail]. To create 2D or 3D spaces quickly and
>>efficiently, a content provider can start with one of
>>the V-Chat template spaces and merely change its bitmaps. Or a new
>>space can be created easily using graphics tools such as
>>Microsoft Softimage 3D, Autodesk 3D Studio, or any 3D modeling tool
>>that can output VRML.
>>_________________________
>>describing a new service on MSN.  I'm seeing more and more about
>>VRML on the web these days.  Does anyone know what it entails to
>>create VRML out of 3D models and are there any easy ways to do this
>>with LightWave?  A plug-in perhaps?  We need a VTU article about
>>this.
>>
>>Tom Schaefer
>>Strategic Video
>>http://www.stratvid.com
>
>
>Look in LW modeler 4.0 as there is already a function for outputing a modeler
>scene to VRML. You also need webscape to view the scene in 3D. I am working on
>my VRML sight currently as well.

I once saved out an object from a library in VRML and it kind of
worked. Thewn I made simple text and there were seriuos polygon
errors, is it buggy are there updates??


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Perez)
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Subject: Re: download from ftp sites??
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:21:35 GMT
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Norimasa Yoshida <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Does anybody know what is wrong??
>when I try to download lightwave objects, Netscape seems to think
>its reading a document, and prints a bunch of ASCII chars.
>has anybody had that problem? Does anybody know how to fix this?

>Any help is appreciated.
>Nori Yoshida

After you get that screen full of chars, just go to the pull-down
menus and the save as... item. Give it a name or accept one if it is
there, and you should end up with the file. At least it worked for me
that way when I d/l'd some pics.

Joe Perez



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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How can I make a rounded 3D object from an outline?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 18:56:14
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld) writes:


>        I'm doing a project where I wanted to make different kinds of
>fish. I would use the picture of the fish in the background and trace
>around the outline with points. Tripling these and then extruding gives
>me a good starting point for a 3D version of the fish. The problem is
>making the body of the fish extend out rounded, leaving the fins
>narrow. I would subdivide or use metaform and then use the magnet tool
>to pull out the points in a bell shape then narrow the fins with the
>stretch tool. This gives me an acceptable object for background shots,
>but it doesn't look so great for closeups. I wanted more rounded and
>tapered body sections. Subdividing too much to give more points to
>pull out, but increases the polygon count too much.
>        What would be a procedure I could use starting with just an
>outline to give a more natural looking object? Should I fill within
>the outline with a matrix of points?

You're probably not going to get good results by starting from a 2-D outline
and trying to flesh it out. Better think 3-D from the start, which means
you're going to be spending at least as much time in front view as in the side
view.

A couple of methods come to mind right away.

1) create a spline cage and patch the curves. To round out the body you will
have to go into the front view and set points.

2) create a series of cross-sections and do a Multiply Morph.

I would get the body into acceptable shape and then worry about the fins. You
could create them in other layer and then do a Boolean Add, or attach them by
merging points.


Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium
Date: 23 Dec 1995 01:08:07 -0500
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I have tried most of the modes listed for 3D acceloration on my 4MB card.
I checked the NT registry too.  So far I see no improvement in 3D speed
over the Diamond 2MB Vram card.  The display is a little slower but the
screen is brigheter (seems to have better definintion).  I expected more
though from this $500 card.  Matrox has not called or emailed me back per
my requests.  I will probably return the card.  Have you had good
results???



 >    What res are you running at? take a look on the side of the box,
>because the 3d acceloration doesn't work in every resolution, expecialy
>with less than 4 megs of ram.


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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
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Subject: books about lightwave?
Date: 23 Dec 1995 20:17:13 -0500
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I am new with lightwave but very happy with that program. Are there any
books or turtorials about lightwave on the market?

-Thies-

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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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In article <[e-mail]> Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:27:04 +0000

>fr_ed wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone point me to a document which might compare these two programs.
>> I have 3D Studio 3.0 and was considering moving up to v4 or Lightwave.
>>
>> Don't know much about Lightwave but have heard good things.
>>
>> Thanks.

I don't know of any documents that compare the two but I use both extensively
and I will have to tell you....   If you are a descent modeler and/or animator
Lightwave is what you want ...  Yes, 3ds is straight forward in most of the
stuff that you do; but Lightwave ROCKS and once I got past the basics of
Lightwave, and played with it lot I started whipping things out....  As for
the Layout it full ray tracing renderer kicks butt (I never said it was the
best)...  very nice you can animate everything in the layout(everything I have
tried)!!!
Also, the modeler kicks but, like I said once you get to know it pretty good
you will just blow yourself away buy the speed in which you can kick things
out.....  Also I have found that I get a much lower polygon count in Lightwave
then in studio.. (granted I don't metaform the thing a bunch of times...)!!!
for example: I made the NCC1701D in both lightwave and 3DS I thought that it
would be a pretty good way for me to get an ideal about wich I would like to
use...... (if your not sure the NCC1701D is the Startrek the Next Generation -
Enterprise...)

my polygon counts were..
NCC1701D_3DS = 12,758
NCC1701D_LW4 = 3,301

as you can see it is a huge improvement in the LW4 model...
oh, by the way both of my models look identical.....

It is all up to you ....  you need to sit down and make a choice on your own.

This is only my opinion....  Sorry for the spelling(I am a modeler not an
english major..)

thanks and I hope this helps you a little....
Send me some e-mail if I can help you any further.....
Michael


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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: =======WHAT'S A GOOD BOOK INSTEAD OF THE LIGHTWAVE 4.0 MANUAL==========
Date: 23 Dec 1995 14:48:21 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>Is there any "Companion" or other book that would be good instead of a
>manual or something even better?
>
>Also is there any online documentation?
>


   From the "I've never pirated a program in my life" department....



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I bought a Compaq Pentium 133 to do raytracing (Lightwave3d) but I was
disappointed when I tried 1024x768 with 16 or 24 bits color depth.
Everything above 256 colors is extremely slow. When I rotate a few
polygons, my screen update is about 3 frames per second - max. (Sigh)
I'm using a Matrox card called Q-vision 2000+ (4Mb VRAM) and a 21"
monitor.
PLEASE mail me your suggestions, tips and experience!
When you're using Lightwave, which resolution and color depth do you
have?


Regards,

Per Swantesson
Sweden

[e-mail]



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From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller ! Get a Clue!!!!
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I have been using LightWave on the Amiga for the past 2 years...just
got it for my Pentium100---If you had to use it on the Amiga you would
never complain about redraw times on a PC!!!!  Very fast indeed...my
Amiga4000 is now used for the Flyer & Toaster only---> the PC is
worlds ahead in speed over any Amiga (that's unfortunate because I
love my Amiga!!)

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On 23 Dec 1995, Thies Uhl wrote:

> I am new with lightwave but very happy with that program. Are there any
> books or turtorials about lightwave on the market?
>
> -Thies-


You can order the "FX Kit for Lightwave" book from LIGHTSPEED.  Price is
$34.95 + S/H.

U.S. Orders 800-764-8696   All Others 805-726-3545
Fax [phone]   Info 805-726-3546

Or mail check/money order to:

Lightspeed
2763 West Ave. L Suite 172
Lancaster, Ca. 93536


Manuel Coats
LIGHTSPEED


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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Does anyone else notice a speed increase in modeler when they drop from 24-bit to
256 color? I did not notice much if any speed increase. I use a #9 Motion 771 with 2
megs VRAM...

By the way, avoid #9..the company has the WORST customer support I've ever seen!!!
They charged me for a supposedly free full motion, full screen mpeg playback
software..the software plays back 1/4 screen in 8-bit only!!!


Adam Chrystie

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:48:59 +0000
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"Then why is it that alot of companies want 3ds artists instead of Lw artists..
I would assume it would be the other way around.

Merry Christmas"

 Because, 3ds has been around for a while..coke and pepsi are classic examples..why do
we sometimes order a coke or a pepsi although we would rather have a juice
drink...Habit..LW is fairly new and has not had enough time to make an imact..but I
know lightwave is gaining impressions..PROOF comes from my own mother..awee..She is
totally uncomputer oriented and she called me up telling me, "Adam they have a new
version of LightWave (version 4.0) and the write up says that it is easy to use and
comes with great manuals!"..I've no idea where she read this..but if ma saw it..well
that's a positive indicator for LightWave!

 Of course i said really," Perhaps I should buy this new version." :) Of course i've
had it since summer :)..but we know how are mothers are SO interested in our computing
fetishes. ;)

Adam Chrystie
University of...I friggin forgot!!!
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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On Sat 23-Dec-1995  1:29a, Nightngl wrote:
N> Hmmm... every surface looked plastic. Let me think now but the last time I
N> checked 99.75% of toys were made of plastic. I could be wrong though.
N> Thanks for the insightful wisdom.

I personally loved TS but I did think that they would of used real human
texture maps for the people. But then again, this thing was ment to be a
KarToon and not the real thing.............no?

I must say though, that the ONE main thing this movie did for me  was to make
me want to do 3D even more than I already do. And even if LW dosen't have that
lip-sync thing, I still want to learn how to do that stuff. I loved how
flexible they made all of the charactures, usually I see people's anim's with
that *look to stiff* feel to them. Even when you see a 2D anim it usually is
done the simple *move it from here to there* way.............md :)

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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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>   [e-mail] (Chuck Durham) writes:
>  As far as devices go,  Most of my guys have had more luck with NT than
>  '95.  Now I've chosen to add all SCSI devices since you find most
>  operating systems can handle SCSI pretty well such as any of the Intel
>  flavors of UNIX.  NT works very well with SCSI and you really get plug
>  and play.

    No shit.  NT recognizes my second drive on my Zeos fine, while 95
cannot seem to find it.


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Lance Gray <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone know the going rate for LightWave via mail order compared to
>buying it retail...reason being....the company I sub-contract for is in the
>process of becoming a LightWave dealer (they already have the demo copy sent
>from NewTek---which is fully functional, it's just named demo to show to
>potential buyers)  and they want to know a reasonable price to sell it---as
>I see numerous people every once in a while are wanting to buy it here!  The
>only quote I've heard is $899 + tax retail (INTEL VERSION)...

>    I just want to know what the average LIMIT is people are willing to
>buy the program for...of course everyone would like it cheap cheap, but even
>from NewTek you still gotta pay a pretty good sum...

>    email ([e-mail]) or post---I'm on often!!!

>

>    Merry CHRISTmas!!! <><

>    -Lance
The best I have seen the 95 Version is 775.00 out of New York.This
would be mail order. If you can get it,and sell it cheaper then sell
me a copy!!




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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anyone have a crack for Lightwave for Windows?
Date: 24 Dec 1995 17:38:55 -0500
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In article <4bkcd8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Elfwork)
writes:

>Regardless, there are other solutions besides using a crack - especially
>if you have a shred of conscience.....
>
>
>

     Ahh, but Erik, your forgeting, if you really DO own the program, then
what would be the problem in using a crack? If you really do own the
program, and arn't using the crack to run it on several machines, or
something like that, then I see nothing wrong with it.. Of course, all
this is null and void if you don't own the program..

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: AMIGA HD BACK-UP
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In article <4bhde9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Foust)
writes:

>
>5-15 GIG 8mm tapes are about $8, and 650 meg CD-Rs are about $8.
>I think tapes hold more data.  If you want speed and access,
>get another hard drive.  And is there any software for Amigas
>for multiple-session CD recording?

     As for the software issue, I have no idea. My point was is that
although a Dat can hold more data, it takes a lot longer to search through
DAT backup catalogs to find a file than to just pop in a cd and snag the
file. No rewinding, searching times. I have both a tape backup, and a
cd-writer, and I almost never use the tape backup anymore. Also, 5-15gig
tape backups are very expensive (not the tapes, the machines).. A
cd-writer is much cheaper these days. As for getting another hard drive?
I'd rather press 5 cd's of random access data for $35 than pay for a 3 gig
drive. It just doesn't make economical sense, since after about 4 cd-based
backups, and the drives cost, I'm ahead of hard drive media in terms of
storage/dollar ratio..

>>Does anyone know if a company makes a DAT machine that acts as both a
>>backup unit, and a music DAT??? I'd LOVE to get one..
>
>Yes, SGI.

Great - there what, like three hundred kazilion dollars...


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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>Unfortunately, the problem lies more in the users than anything else.
>I am a big 3DS user, and I have seen some true crap done by a great
>deal of 3DS'ers.  It all stems from background.  A have a commercial
>photography background, so I know a lot about light.  Most of your
>Amiga/Lightwave people have backgrounds in video, again with a lot of
>lighting knowledge.  The average 3DS user, however, is either a
>engineer, a architect, or a hacker.  Their poor training shows in
>their work.  So when you see these awfully lit scende with crummy
>materials (ambient lighting = 80%, phong material), you can tell they
>are junk.  I have some of my pieces up at my web site... they are
>stills, and look fairly convincing.  If they were animated, I think
>they could fool people.  Tell me what you think.
>http://www.patch.net/~andy

I agree, I am terrible at lighting and it showed, so I took a bunch of
video production classes and it really helped. I checked out the page
and it is good, I instantly recognized your rendering from the back of
my 3DSr4 box :) Another good thing to check out is a french animation
on the 3DSr4 demo VHS tape. It's a free tape to get and has some nice
animations on it. But the animation is also super real. It all comes
down to who is using the package. I have seen stuff done with Imagine
that rivals stuff done with Alias.

Jeff


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From: [e-mail] (Action Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Mario Heliczer <marioh> wrote:

>I know of a 3D scanner... but it's on Amiga...

>Don't mention it...
>if ya can't find anything better: reply & I'll tell where to get it from.

>Mario Heliczer

Can you tell me what it is and where to get hold of it?



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From: [e-mail] (John McKenzie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Chrysolithos ([e-mail]);

 I expect no one here speaks about reboot because it has nothing to do
with lightwave, and also there is a Reboot newsgroup. You may or may not
know it already, but just in case you don't, it is the best place for
Reboot discussion and is called alt.tv.reboot.



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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anyone have a crack for Lightwave for Windows?
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In article <4bhorg$[e-mail]>, John Brandwood
<[e-mail]> writes:
>The price of an Endevor board is around $300 with 256KB cache.
True, though the basic board will run you only about $214.
(If he already had the cache RAM ya' see.....)

Regardless, there are other solutions besides using a crack - especially
if you have a shred of conscience.....


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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Re: New DEC Alpha prices
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A couple questions:

Any system memory included?

What's the new price if LW Alpha is bundeled in?


>Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
>275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

>$3695!!!!

>Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
>1.44 floppy, 1 Gig fast SCSI 2 HD, 2X CD-ROM, Diamond PCI 2 MB graphics
card,
>Keyboard, Mouse, 2MB cache, and more.

>Just thought everyone would like to know.

>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone from Anti Gravity

>Prices effective Jan 1, 1996

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Toy Story
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In article <4bdspv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>  I think Toy Story was nothing less than excellent. It had the look of
>>  Nightmare Before Christmas.
>
>    ??? Better get your eyes checked.
>
>

    I second that. Nightmare was amazing, but looks nothing like toy
story. I personaly thought Nightmare was much more amazing than toy story,
but being a CGI artists, maybe thats blasphamy, maybe not..

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Thomas
Healy) writes:

>> Hi,
>> I heard about the Matrox Millenium new video card. It seems to
>> be 3D accelerated. As the modeller "refresh" is _very_ slow,
>> could anybody tell me about the effect of that video card on
>> either rendering times or preview (in layout and modeller)
>> (I've a P120 with 16Mb under W95).
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>Hey,
>
>If you get any feedback, drop me a note....I'm looking at getting a 4meg
>Matrox card myself....
>
>Thomas

   I bought a matrox card a little while ago, mostly for the 3d
acceloration as I knew powerview was comming out. I highly suggest the 4
meg version, as the 2 meg only accelorates 3d at 640x480, 256 colors. The
4 meg accelorates 3d at 800x600, 16 bit color, which is much nicer.
Anyway, there great cards, and Matrox is a good company.

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help finding "Center" macro and OpenGL plugin
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In article <[e-mail]>, mitch rosefelt <[e-mail]>
writes:

>I just bought LW for Intel and am reviewing the tutorials.
>Reference is made to a "Center" macro, which is supposed to be
>located w/in the "custom" pop-up.  It isn't there, and when I
>select load, I don't find anything which looks like the right
>file to load.
>Can anyone point me to the macros?

    The center macro should be located in your newtek/plugins/modeler/
directory. Use Add Plugin to add it to your plugin list.

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: AMIGA HD BACK-UP
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In article <4ben3l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(BrainIsle) writes:

>Can anyone suggest a moderately priced tape storage hard drive backup for
>the Amiga. Looking to back up around 600Mb with full compatability.
>SCSI ok. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance...
>-Dennis
>
>

    Actualy, you can find single speed cd-writers for around $500 these
days, which is a much better deal than most tape backups, in terms of
accessability, and speed. As for amiga based systems, from what I remember
from my amiga days Dat is the way to go. Actualy, DAT is the way a lot of
things should go, like music. The mechanisms are excellent, I've used them
a lot and find them not only extremely fast, but they never get jammed.
Does anyone know if a company makes a DAT machine that acts as both a
backup unit, and a music DAT??? I'd LOVE to get one..

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From: [e-mail] (Todd Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
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In article <4bfshg$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (JBooth411) wrote:
>In article <4bcjlv$[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (Graeme Turner) writes:
>
>>
>>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated
>CAD
>>
>>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>>
>>
>
>  No flames here - I agree..


Then why is it that alot of companies want 3ds artists instead of Lw artists..
I would assume it would be the other way around.

Merry Christmas

-------------------------------------------------
Todd Barnes                   [e-mail]
Infinite Digital Imaging       http://www.midtown.net/~toddb/idi/infinite.html
Sacramento California

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From: [e-mail] (John McKenzie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LIGHTWAVE ON 4000T?
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JKrause357;

 Please stop shouting. It is very rude.

Thank you.

 The 4000T is just an Amiga tower. It is a 4000, and it is in a tower
configuration. There is nothing to worry about, it is an Amiga like other
Amigas.

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From: [e-mail] (John McKenzie)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Gord Bowman ([e-mail]);

 Lha is a common amiga compression system. LZX is a less common one that
is better and can decompress lha files better than lha can. PC
decompression utilities do exsist for these but I can't tell you off hand
where to get them, but look around, or get a friend with an Amiga. :-)


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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Durham)
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Lance Gray <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone know the going rate for LightWave via mail order compared to
>buying it retail...reason being....the company I sub-contract for is in the
>process of becoming a LightWave dealer (they already have the demo copy sent
>from NewTek---which is fully functional, it's just named demo to show to
>potential buyers)  and they want to know a reasonable price to sell it---as
>I see numerous people every once in a while are wanting to buy it here!  The
>only quote I've heard is $899 + tax retail (INTEL VERSION)...

>    I just want to know what the average LIMIT is people are willing to
>buy the program for...of course everyone would like it cheap cheap, but even
>from NewTek you still gotta pay a pretty good sum...

>    email ([e-mail]) or post---I'm on often!!!

>

>    Merry CHRISTmas!!! <><

>    -Lance

I just ordered LightWave 4.0 NT Intel Version of $749 from AntiGravity
Products.  The price they had was $769, but I got a quote from a
company in New York for $749 and AntiGravity matched with thier price
guarantee,  I've dealt with AG so I was much more comfortable ordering
it from them.

I think most people like to shop around so I can't imagine anyone
buying it for $899 or even ordering it directly from NewTek.  If they
pick up any CGI mag they'll see AntiGravity's adds

Chuck Durham
Imaginative Entertainment
[e-mail]
http://www.imaginative.com
http://www.xspot.com



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From: [e-mail] (Phinai Weerakitti)
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Subject: How to Import DXF file?
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How can I import DXF file from ACAD in to Lightwave3D?

Please direct answer to me.
or mail to
   [e-mail]

Thank you.


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Hi,
I've got  the Imomega zip 100 drive (parallel port version) and it
doesnt  with the dongle and the port set to high speed throughput.
Anyway of explaining, in simple terms, how I install this bearing in
mind that I,m not a programmer.
Thanks in anticipation
Lee....




[e-mail] wrote:


>For the guy who knackered his dongle, and any others who find it a pain in the
>butt, run these in your newtek/programs directory.

>there are two little progs here, lwcrk.com and modcrk.com. Split em and decode
>em.

>p.s. it's not illegal to post cracks, it's all original code.

>Fish.

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From: [e-mail] (leelee)
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Hi,
Mines for sale as I have upgraded to Intel LW 4.0. How much are you
going to offer ????
Lee...


[e-mail] (Action Jackson) wrote:

>Anyone want to sell their copy of Lightwave 3.5 PAL for AMiga?

>Have you upgraded to the PC/SGI/ALPHA... Sell me your Amiga One...

>UK or Europe only Please...




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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
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> Simple answer really.
> You can tell *INSTANTLY* if somethings been done in 3ds!
> With LW, you can't!

Why is this? I've always thought it but I can't put my finger on why. The
surface textures are an odd sort of silk finish, in the main, and this
stands out a mile, but what is it that gives 3DS this "signature"?

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Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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> As an avocate of both program I have to say you can tell when stuff
> has been done in Lightwave too. Just watch the Sci-fi shows on TV, you
> will see a lot of the effects in one show in the others. After doing
> animation for a while it is easier to tell what is done with certain
> software packages. But there are always exceptions to the rule!

The only thing which is really obvious about Lightwave is the lens
flares, I think. Everything else is just guesswork, I think, like the
fact that most sci-fi shows use Lightwave for example. :?)

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From: [e-mail] (DAN BLOOMFIELD)
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-> > >   "Dirk Taggesell" <[e-mail]> writes:
-> >
-> > >  Now I would be glad if I could expand the auto-repeating motion
-> to a > >  normal motion path (with keyframes for each up-down cycle:
-> 0 down, 5 > >  up, 10 down, 15 up and so on...) so that I can edit
-> the motion path at > >  some frames to perform another motion.
-> >
-> >
-> > I always thought this would be the FIRST motion plugin, but I guess
-> not .
-> > Actually, I feel it should be built in.
I'm not sure I completely comprhend what you are trying to do, but cut
and paste is available in all the envelope editors in 4.0. Just copy the
range of frames for your motion cycle and paste them where needed,
making adjustments where neccesary.

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From: [e-mail] (Saiyad Abdul)
Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller ! Get a Clue!!!!
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William Teegarden ([e-mail]) writes:
> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael S.
> Spitler) writes:
>>
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
> (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
>>>From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
>>>Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller !
>>>Date: 16 Dec 1995 01:40:11 -0700
>>
>>>>Could anyone at Newtek give us an explaination as to why screen
>>>>refresh in modeler is so slow.  I have Truespace and Imagine and
> both
>>>>of them are much much faster redrawing the screen.  It's poor
>>>>programing.  I have an ati turbo pro with 4 megs and everything else
>
>>>>flys.
>>
>>>>scott
>
> Try dropping your color depth to 256 colors when using modeler.  For
> some reason, modeler dosen't like 24 bit or 65k color mode.  Using a
> 256 pallete though seems to fix the problem.  I don't know if this is a
> bug or just the way the program is supposed to work.
>
> GT
>

I know after running a few benchmarks that on my 4meg ATI Grfx Pro-Turbo
that the sweet spot is 16 bit. The card is actually noticebly(sp?) faster
in 16 bit that it is in 8 bit modes so god only knows why modeller's
redraws are so slow.

Sai


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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael S.
Spitler) writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
>>Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller !
>>Date: 16 Dec 1995 01:40:11 -0700
>
>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott
Barrilleaux) writes:
>>>From: [e-mail] (Scott Barrilleaux)
>>>Subject: Re: Slow ScreenRefreshing or LineDrawing in Modeller !
>>>Date: 13 Dec 95 17:40:53 -0800
>
>>>Could anyone at Newtek give us an explaination as to why screen
>>>refresh in modeler is so slow.  I have Truespace and Imagine and
both
>>>of them are much much faster redrawing the screen.  It's poor
>>>programing.  I have an ati turbo pro with 4 megs and everything else

>>>flys.
>
>>>scott

Try dropping your color depth to 256 colors when using modeler.  For
some reason, modeler dosen't like 24 bit or 65k color mode.  Using a
256 pallete though seems to fix the problem.  I don't know if this is a
bug or just the way the program is supposed to work.

GT


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Hash Inc. has a product for Windows, Animation Master, which
uses a spline based modeler.  I use it to make organic shapes
and then export the models as DXF.  Lightwave can then load
them as poly objects.  Animation Master is about $550 street
price but Hash has a version of their product for under $200.


Archie Jones


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On Dec 20, 1995 18:29:23 in article <NEW VIDEO PLAYBACK BOARD!! Quadrant
QMotion PCI>, 'Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>' wrote:

snipsy:

the pvr output is much cleaner
the quadrant is more comparable to the isa par board by dps

>
>Select Solutions shuld have them...This looks like an interesting
alternative
>to the
>PVR..but probably doesn't outshine the PVR...i'll let ya all know when i
take a
>look
>at it in person,.,
>
>Adam

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> >> Simple answer really.
> >> You can tell *INSTANTLY* if somethings been done in 3ds!
> >> With LW, you can't!
> >
> >Why is this? I've always thought it but I can't put my finger on
why. The
> >surface textures are an odd sort of silk finish, in the main, and
this
> >stands out a mile, but what is it that gives 3DS this "signature"?

Unfortunately, the problem lies more in the users than anything else.
I am a big 3DS user, and I have seen some true crap done by a great
deal of 3DS'ers.  It all stems from background.  A have a commercial
photography background, so I know a lot about light.  Most of your
Amiga/Lightwave people have backgrounds in video, again with a lot of
lighting knowledge.  The average 3DS user, however, is either a
engineer, a architect, or a hacker.  Their poor training shows in
their work.  So when you see these awfully lit scende with crummy
materials (ambient lighting = 80%, phong material), you can tell they
are junk.  I have some of my pieces up at my web site... they are
stills, and look fairly convincing.  If they were animated, I think
they could fool people.  Tell me what you think.
http://www.patch.net/~andy

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Help finding "Center" macro and OpenGL plugin
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In article <[e-mail]>, mitch rosefelt <[e-mail]>
writes:

>I just bought LW for Intel and am reviewing the tutorials.
>Reference is made to a "Center" macro, which is supposed to be
>located w/in the "custom" pop-up.  It isn't there, and when I
>select load, I don't find anything which looks like the right
>file to load.
>Can anyone point me to the macros?
>
>

1) From Modeler, hit the "Custom" button and select "Add Plugin".
2) Browse to c:\newtek\plugins\modeler and select CENTER.P (and any others
you might need).
3) Go into the "Custom" list again, and select "Configure Keys".
4) For key "F2", select "Center".

From then on, you have a "Center" macro, but it's on F2 instead of F1
(which is reserved).

Hope this helps,
Marc

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In article <[e-mail]>, Prem Subrahmanyam
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I have the same bug on my machine, pointers not lining up and stuff.
>I think it's the Mach 64 drivers.  I have the same problem happen
>in Corel, Borland's Resource Workshop, and just about anything that
>uses custom pointers.  It's not the fault of any of the programs,
>but ATI's driver.  At least this driver is better than the last
>one they put up...just about every 16-bit program, as well as LW and
>some others would GP on exit...turned out to be the display driver,
>and that only after reinstalling Windows 95 three times, getting
>Norton AntiVirus to look for viral activity, three calls to
>MicroShmucks tech support(at my expense, mind you), etc.

I noticed some weird stuff a couple of months ago with the animation
preview in Layout, which went away after downloading the latest ATI Mach
64 drivers (June 8, 1995).  I'm running Windows 3.1, but now don't get any
more crashes or GPFs.

-Marc

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NEW VIDEO PLAYBACK BOARD!! Quadrant QMotion PCI
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 21:00:50 +0000
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Michael Justin Austin wrote:
>
> On Dec 20, 1995 18:29:23 in article <NEW VIDEO PLAYBACK BOARD!! Quadrant
> QMotion PCI>, 'Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>' wrote:
>
> snipsy:
>
> the pvr output is much cleaner
> the quadrant is more comparable to the isa par board by dps

  Oh, yea...I wasn;t comparing it the the PVR...But for $1,000 less and including a
capture capability too..it seems like a good product for those of us who don't have a
day time job animating yet :)...I still have not demoed one in person..so i can't
comment on it's output.

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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anyone have a crack for Lightwave for Windows?
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In article <4bkkpv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(JBooth411) writes:
>     Ahh, but Erik, your (SIC) forgeting, if you really DO own the
program, then
>what would be the problem in using a crack?

Um, it would be illegal.
(And some would argue, immoral, also.)

NewTek Software license (v4.0 Reference Manual, pg iii):
2. Restrictions
........
YOU MAY NOT MODIFY, ADAPT, TRANSLATE,....(etc.), OR CREATE DERIVATIVE
WORKS BASED UPON THE SOFTWARE, OR ANY PART THEREOF.
........

Simple enough for ya?
Erik Flom - ELFWORKS 3D Construction Co. (Est. 1992)

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From: [e-mail]
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>   [e-mail] (PavDg) writes:
>  I think Toy Story was nothing less than excellent. It had the look of
>  Nightmare Before Christmas.

    ??? Better get your eyes checked.

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 > From: [e-mail]
 > Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
 > Subject: Re: Ok, I give up.  What *is* ScreamerNet?
 > what I would like to know is,  will screamernet work across platforms.
 > ie. I could network my flyer system to our pentium network (obviously
 > also having a copy of lightwave intel.)  which brings me to question
 > two, does each networked PC have to have the doongle to run
 > screamernet?  I think 3DS allows mutiple cpu's to render with one seat
 > of 3DS.

Yes you can control Pentium's from Alpha's or vice versa, or from
Amiga's assuming you have the correct network software to allow the Amiga's
to see the PC network. Obviously you need the correct SN exe. file for the
platform you are trying to render on, which only comes with the release
version of 4.0 for that platform. However SN does not require a dongle so
you only need purchase one copy of LW for each type processor.


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Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

$3695!!!!

Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:

> drink...Habit..LW is fairly new and has not had enough time to make a

It may not be as old as 3ds, but it is hardly new.  I've personally
owned it for quite some time, and I didn't get it until version 3.5.  I
don't know when the first LW came out, but I think it has been many years
now.

(Didn't LW start out with some other name back in the late 80s?  I'm a
little fuzzy on the history).

   - steve

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From: Gary Barringer <[e-mail]>
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Could somebody please tell me where I might find the OpenGL LIBS
for Windows 95. I have the plugin for the powerview, but not the libs.

Thanks in advance
Gary Barringer

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From: Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:
>
>> Simple answer really.
>> You can tell *INSTANTLY* if somethings been done in 3ds!
>> With LW, you can't!
>
>Why is this? I've always thought it but I can't put my finger on why. The
>surface textures are an odd sort of silk finish, in the main, and this
>stands out a mile, but what is it that gives 3DS this "signature"?
>

Just a theory,I read somewhere that 3DS calculates colors in
64bit color space, then down samples to 24bit on output. This
may cause the colors to be "too real". I'm not sure how LW
calculates colors, I think only gradients are calculated at
96bits to eliminate banding. Just a thought

Andrew Weiler


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>In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Scott Adams) wrote:
>>    What is Screamernet?

On Thu, 21 Dec 95 00:22:24 GMT, [e-mail] (Kevin
Gleeson) wrote:
>
>ScreamerNet is a batch rendering standalone exec for Lightwave. You can use it
>on a single machine to render several scenes

snip

what I would like to know is,  will screamernet work across platforms.
ie. I could network my flyer system to our pentium network (obviously
also having a copy of lightwave intel.)  which brings me to question
two, does each networked PC have to have the doongle to run
screamernet?  I think 3DS allows mutiple cpu's to render with one seat
of 3DS.

Thanks

[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel J. McCoy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anyone have a crack for Lightwave for Windows?
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In article <4bf860$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Neveronce) wrote:
>WEll...
>Thanks for all the help.  Whoever said something about motherboards being
>cheap was wrong.

Actually, in comparison to RAM and the actual CPU (if Pentium), motherboard
prices aren't that expensive at all.  It's the RAM and the CPU that'll kill
ya!

>Here's a question, though:  Can I plug in the dongle to the server on my
>network, and use lightwave locally on my computer?  If so, then that's
>what I'll do.. but will it work?

Nope.  It has to be locally available as far as I know.

Dan

--
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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium
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In article <4bde84$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
writes:

>I put a Millenium in my machine today for use with PowerView in Windows
NT
>Intel.  I believe I have all the drivers and settings correct but the
>results are no different than the Stealth 64 2 MVRAM so far.  I am
waiting
>to hear from Matrox about the non-performance gain with OpenGL.
>
>

     What res are you running at? take a look on the side of the box,
because the 3d acceloration doesn't work in every resolution, expecialy
with less than 4 megs of ram.

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
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In article <4bcjlv$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Graeme Turner) writes:

>
>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated
CAD
>
>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>
>

  No flames here - I agree..

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From: [e-mail] (Ray Dyer)
Subject: PLEASE HELP! LW4.0 for Win (animation)
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 I just got hold of Lightwave 4.0 for Windows. I can't figure out how to make
animations. I go under the record menu and click on "ANIMATION TYPE" it just
keeps on saying "none". Thank you for helping me with this.

                      [e-mail]

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[e-mail] wrote:

> When I click on add plugin in modeler, then go to run the plugin
> nothing shows up, nothing happens. any guesses?

If you mean that you can't find it listed, look at the Custom list
under Tools.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
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In article <4bcjlv$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Graeme Turner) writes:

>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated
CAD
>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>

I agree, but you'd be more likely to be flamed in the 3d Studio newsgroup.
<g>

-Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: =======WHAT'S A GOOD BOOK INSTEAD OF THE LIGHTWAVE 4.0 MANUAL==========
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In article <4bdf03$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>
>Is there any "Companion" or other book that would be good instead of a
>manual or something even better?
>
>

Actually, I found the User Guide (blue manual) pretty good for getting
started, especially the tutorial section.

However, one of the good points of LightWave is the amount of third-party
material produced for it.  LightSpeed puts out an excellent video magazine
(one tape per month), which includes tutorials, demos, and product
reviews.  Also from LightSpeed, check out "The FX Kit for Lightwave" by
Alan Chan (about $30 US).  This is a well-written and accurate book of
tutorials for the beginning or intermediate animator.

LightSpeed
[phone]
[phone]

Hope this helps,
Marc

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From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
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Subject: Re: Win32s errors
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (your_name_here) writes:

>Hi, I'm getting Win32s errors when I try and render a scene.  Possible
>causes?  Possible fixes?  I'm running Lightwave on a DX2 66 with Windows
>3.11, 16 Mb RAM, and 256 colour card.  Suggestions appreciated.

You might try downloading the most recent version of Win32s from
Microsoft's ftp site (ftp.microsoft.com).  The file is called PW1118.exe,
which is a 2.5 MB self extracting compressed file.  Try to download at
3:00 am to avoid the rush.

Hope this helps,
Marc

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All pf a sudden my Mouse pointer is frozen in the upper left
hand cornere of the workbench screen.Any ideas????
(amiga 2000)

Thanx

Wayne



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In <4ba5jg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
writes:
>
>In article <4b8ih5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Brad
>Grace ) writes:
>
>>>4.0 eases the testing of surface textures (though they should have
>>added a
>>>Cube, tube and pyramid option).
>>>
>>Mine has the Cube, but not the others.  BTW, how would tube and
pyramid
>>display any info that you are not getting with the sphere and cube???

>
>What version (platform?) of LightWave are you using?  How do you get
the
>Cube texture sample object?
>
>Curious,
>Marc
It is a new alpha/beta that I got at work, we are beta testers for it.

Brad

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Lightwave 3.x anims on Flyer???
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:26:34 GMT
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As a NewTek dealer we have an A4000 based Flyer system we use for
demos and for in-house work.  We have had one customer bring us in
some anims he did on his A2000-Lightwave 3.x system.  Is there a way
to view these anims with our Flyer system???  I find it hard to
believe that older anims cannot be viewed at all on the A4000 Flyer
system.


Ken


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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Anyone have a crack for Lightwave for Windows?
Date: 22 Dec 1995 20:10:30 -0500
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In article <4bf860$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Neveronce) writes:
>Can I plug in the dongle to the server on my
>network, and use lightwave locally on my computer?
My (WA) _guess_.....
Since it needs the IRQ, it's probably tied closely to the hardware.
Sentinel would probably not see the remote server's port as a valid
device.

>If so, then that's what I'll do.. but will it work?
Sounds like a simple half hour test.......
Couldn't hurt (as long as you bring down your server _before_ plugging it
in!! :^)

If your slots are full, there must be _some_ boards you can consolodate?!?
(BTW, you can get Pentium PCI M/Bs w/60Hz Intel CPU for around $200 in the
SF Bay area. The most expensive bare motherboard is $214. Cheapest Pentium
PCI MB is $100. Cheapest of all is a 486-DX266-VLB for $56 - $84 if you
want the 486 on the board! [And I paid $3000 for a 486-66 only three years
ago!!!])

Erik Flom - ELFWORKS 3D Construction Co. (Est. 1992)

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PowerView Bugs?
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I wrote:

> ... it might mean that PowerView is using its own message loop, rather
> than Modeler's.

Then again, it might not.  The file requester does this too...

- Ernie

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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
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Subject: Re: PVR startup
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In article <4bhebr$[e-mail]>, Daniel Rodriguez <[e-mail]>
writes:

>I'm a 3d animator user of a PVR card with a Micropolis 4221AV running on
>Win95. During the PVR software startup i receive a "Unable to find hard
>disk"-like message. If i choose 'retry' the disk is recognized.
>Do you have the same problem? why this happend?

Yes, I have this problem.

Not sure what the conflict is.
There's a chance it's an IRQ conflict with another PCI card, but I can't
change the IRQ of my PVR - I can only mark it's IRQ as being used in
Win95.

Erik Flom - ELFWORKS - 3D Construction Co.

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From: [e-mail] (Elfwork)
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In article <4bir9h$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) writes:
>Set up a shadow map with a large shadow map size and lots of fuzziness
>(I usually use about 1500-2000 and 2.0-3.0 per light). I'd guess at up to
10
>times as long under 95 as NT. This is definitely where the major
differences
>come into it. Why this disappears when 95 uses SN beats me.

That's an interesting observation, and one I'd never bothered to check!

Thanks for the tip - I'll definitely be looking into this.

As you say, it's quite a mystery.

Erik Flom - ELFWORKS 3D Construction Co. (Est. 1992)


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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I believe that you can get better rendering throughput by running two
Lightwave's on one machine, each rendering every other frame.

The reason I think this is that for many projects, LW spends a
reasonable amount of time writing the file.  The percentage can be
significant, especially for frames which are very fast to render.

When it is writing the file, there are free CPU cycles available that
are spent waiting on I/O.  If there is another copy of LW running, it
will use those free CPU cycles while the 1st LW is doing file I/O, and
conversely, the first will use the free cycles of the 2nd.  (Unless they
are both doing I/O simultaneously, but you can generally prevent that by
tweaking the task priorities).

This assumes that having two of them going isn't so much of a burden
that you loose time to swapping, etc.

  - steve

PS - I noticed this about the Amiga version, but it might apply to the
Windoze version as well.  The only real assumptions are: 1) that there
is some finite amount of time spent writing the file, 2) that this
writing does not use all the CPU available, and 3) that your CPU
scheduling is efficient enough to not take away whatever gains are
available by overlapping file writes and rendering.

PPS - Generally it is not going to be much - just a few percent.  It may
not be of any real practical value, but its interesting anyway :-)

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From: [e-mail] (Action Jackson)
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Since moving back to UK I have not been able to either locate any good
dealers in pro. Video equipment or Pro. Video magazines?

Dont they exist here ??

Any leads would be helpful...
They are like flies around shit in US!!

PS: is there equivilent to NAB in UK?


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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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""It may not be as old as 3ds, but it is hardly new.  I've personally
owned it for quite some time, and I didn't get it until version 3.5.  I
don't know when the first LW came out, but I think it has been many years
now.""



   I would argue that LW is fairly new to the "greater world" of 3D animation and has
not had time to make an impact as programs like 3DS, topas, strata pro, electric
image..etccc.

     True, LW has been around for a while but only on the Amiga platform. We all know
the Amiga was an ass kicking machine..buttt it lacked in horse power and software
support by big name companies..Therefore, not alot of people who were not Amigoids
would never consider LW seriously as an option..

 How many animation facilities WENT to Amiga? True , foundation, Amblim, area 52,
computer cafe, wil vinton, warner communications, westwood one, core, interplay,
origin and some other studios use LW..but only because the people who founded them or
were hired by them, were original amigoids...Now that LW has been ported you will see
more and more facilities asking for LW artists, less sceptical of LW animators and
probably some will adopt LW..

   Only since the switch to Intel, Alpha, SGI have i noticed a larger recognition of
Lw by a larger public sphere...THis sphere is the one who is stuck in mainstream
computing..and had never heard of LW prior to it's 4.0 release..So, therefore, it
could be safe to say that version 4.0 is by and large a new product..

Just my thoughts

Adam Chrystie--

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From: lito <[e-mail]>
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Hi there,
    Is this a bug with the Power view plugin or did I do something wrong.
Every time I run the plugin it always brings up a dialog box that says
        info
        cannot find module handle
It still brings up the Power View box and everything works.

    Also I crashed my computer. I resized the PowerView box and rotated the
object in the new window, then I closed it and the object did not redraw itself
in modeler (I couldn't close modeler or Ctrl-Alt-Del the computer so I had to
press the reset switch (yuck!)).

Other than that It works great. A very useful plugin a must get for all.
                -Lito-

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From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Toy Story
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 04:38:37 GMT
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[e-mail] (JBooth411) wrote:

>In article <4bdspv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>>>  I think Toy Story was nothing less than excellent. It had the look of
>>>  Nightmare Before Christmas.

>I second that. Nightmare was amazing, but looks nothing like toy
>story. I personaly thought Nightmare was much more amazing than toy story,
>but being a CGI artists, maybe thats blasphamy, maybe not..

First: I LOVED Toy Story! And not only for the technological
achievement, but for the storyline and the whole look and feel. Hey,
I'm already waiting for the sequel!

Second: I LOVED Nightmare Before Christmas. The look and feel of that
movie was astounding. Tim Burton certainly has a look. I'm also
looking forward to James and the Giant Peach.

Third: I wonder if Nightmare Before Christmas could have been done, or
should have been done in CGI?

Has anyone seen the video for "Sober" by Tool? It's stop-motion
animation and I was blown away by the look of it. It was all gray and
depressing, and reminded me of Nightmare. In fact, I thought it LOOKED
better than Nightmare.  And in fact, it reminded me somewhat of
BRAZIL, by Terry Gilliam. I'd love to be involved in an animation
project that looked like that... (hey!)

Sean Huxter
[e-mail]
http://www.cabot.nf.ca/~sean




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From: [e-mail] (Sean Huxter)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How can I make a rounded 3D object from an outline?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 04:54:41 GMT
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>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld) writes:


>>        I'm doing a project where I wanted to make different kinds of
>>fish. I would use the picture of the fish in the background and trace
>>around the outline with points.

Ok, I've done exactly this and the results were rather pleasing.

Here's how I did it.

1)  I took a picture of a fish from Corel Draw clip-art that I liked.
I saved it as a fairly high-res TIFF file, and converted it to my
Amiga using Art Department Professional. This can also work with a
photographic scan of a fish, as long as it's a pretty good side-view.

2)  I brought that picture into Modeler and used it as my background
image. I traced two SKETCHes. One for the upper line of the body
(excluding the fins -- I added those later) and one for the lower
body. Both splines started at the nose and ended at the tail, but did
not touch.

3)  I drew a vercially stretched DISC with no thickness in the FRONT
view, and placed it up against the starting points of the two splines
at the nose of the fish. This doesn't have to be a disc. It simply has
to be the general shape of the cross-section of the fish. A disc
worked well for this tropical fish.  I then used RAIL EXTRUDE to
create the fish's body. Play with the options until you get a nice
fish body.

4)  Now for the nose, which was suddenly blunt (because it was a flat
stretched disk) I used bevel to round that out. I used two BALL
objects for the eyes (placed so they mapped directly on the eyes of
the bitmap.)

5)  Fins. I just traced them out in the side view using the same
bitmap graphic that is still in Modeler. I subdivided them so I could
bone them. This was good for the top and bottom as well as the tail
fins.

6)  For the side fins, I just drew them flat, and placed them where
they belonged. I made sure they lined up with the fins in the drawing
so they could use the same bitmap for colour.

7)  For surfacing, I used the bitmap as a colour texture, as well as a
specular map and a diffuse map. This gives the fish shine in different
places.

7)  For the result, check out the following web site:

http://www.cabot.nf.ca/~sean

(Look in the STEREO 3D section. There I have a stereo side-by-side
graphic of five of these fish, around a Crystal Ball and a Mirror
Ball. Click on the small version of the graphic and a side-by-side
larger image is loaded into your viewer. If you cross your eyes, you
get a wonderful 3D effect, and you can see that the results are pretty
good for a simple modelling project.  You can also see it in the
LIGHTWAVE 3D section, down a bit. There is a Pseudopod (similar to the
one used in "The Abyss",) facing this same fish. Click on the small
image and you'll get a 640x480 graphic of it.)

Hope this was of some help. (Hey that's two questions this week that
were about things I've already done.  Keep it up!)

Sean Huxter
[e-mail]
http://www.cabot.nf.ca/~sean


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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In article <4bitj6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JBooth411) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
>Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
>Date: 24 Dec 1995 01:56:38 -0500

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
>S. Spitler) writes:

>>my polygon counts were..
>>NCC1701D_3DS = 12,758
>>NCC1701D_LW4 = 3,301
>>
>>as you can see it is a huge improvement in the LW4 model...
>>oh, by the way both of my models look identical.....

>    Remember also that it would be a lot closer if 3ds supported
>npolygons.


you are very right...   Just to clarify I am not downing 3DS I think it is a
great software/modeling package.....

michael


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
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In article <4bgfnb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper)
>Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:44:03 GMT

>>>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated
>>CAD
>>>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>>>

>>I agree, but you'd be more likely to be flamed in the 3d Studio newsgroup.
>><g>

>Once again I say wrong! It all comes down to the user. Using one
>package or another doesn't matter. It is the artist who has the talent
>and not the program.

>Jeff

I will agree with Jeff...  for one 3ds is highly used by game developers....
even for there human models........  If need be I can go on...  Just ask and
we can post more on the subject....

have a merry christmas


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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How can I make a rounded 3D object from an outline?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Phillip Finch) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
>Subject: Re: How can I make a rounded 3D object from an outline?
>Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 18:56:14

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld) writes:


>>        I'm doing a project where I wanted to make different kinds of
>>fish. I would use the picture of the fish in the background and trace
>>around the outline with points. Tripling these and then extruding gives
>>me a good starting point for a 3D version of the fish. The problem is
>>making the body of the fish extend out rounded, leaving the fins
>>narrow. I would subdivide or use metaform and then use the magnet tool
>>to pull out the points in a bell shape then narrow the fins with the
>>stretch tool. This gives me an acceptable object for background shots,
>>but it doesn't look so great for closeups. I wanted more rounded and
>>tapered body sections. Subdividing too much to give more points to
>>pull out, but increases the polygon count too much.
>>        What would be a procedure I could use starting with just an
>>outline to give a more natural looking object? Should I fill within
>>the outline with a matrix of points?

>You're probably not going to get good results by starting from a 2-D outline
>and trying to flesh it out. Better think 3-D from the start, which means
>you're going to be spending at least as much time in front view as in the side
>view.

>A couple of methods come to mind right away.

>1) create a spline cage and patch the curves. To round out the body you will
>have to go into the front view and set points.

>2) create a series of cross-sections and do a Multiply Morph.

>I would get the body into acceptable shape and then worry about the fins. You
>could create them in other layer and then do a Boolean Add, or attach them by
>merging points.


>Phil Finch ([e-mail])

>***************************************************
>"Anyone who has begun to think
>places some part of the world in jeopardy."
>               --John Dewey
>***************************************************


For a fish I would recommend the patch method ...  you have alot of control
over the shape and a hell of alot over the polygon count....

I could probably put together a little tutorial if you need it...  or I could
post it....  of the back/top end of a sub[fictional] I modeled it should give
you a good idea how to get a nice 3D patch....

Just let me know

Michael

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From: [e-mail] (Angel Freire)
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External Bernoulli 150MB Removable Media Drive
11 150MB Cartridges

In excellent condition to be shipped in original box.
All for $600 with COD and shipping to anywhere in
the continental US included.

Angel Freire


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <4bkeg5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>     As for the software issue, I have no idea. My point was is that
>although a Dat can hold more data, it takes a lot longer to search through
>DAT backup catalogs to find a file than to just pop in a cd and snag the
>file. No rewinding, searching times. I have both a tape backup, and a
>cd-writer, and I almost never use the tape backup anymore.

I use Exabytes all the time, but I rarely have to consult my backups,
because I have between 1 and 4 gigs online on each machine.  I got the
CD-R to make one-offs of the future Syndesis 3D-ROMs, and betas of
other software, but I've made a grand total of *one* personal backup on CD,
and that was to archive three-four shoeboxes of old 5 1/4 floppies
from years gone by.  Finding a needle in a 650 meg haystack isn't
fun, either, and certainly takes time unless your data organization
is exceedingly simple and/or well-organized.

>>>Does anyone know if a company makes a DAT machine that acts as both a
>>>backup unit, and a music DAT??? I'd LOVE to get one..
>>
>>Yes, SGI.
>
>Great - there what, like three hundred kazilion dollars...

No, not really.  I got a perfectly nice Indy (32 meg, 1 gig, 17 ")
for $4,000 from the net this fall, and I've seen a half-dozen
identical machines sell for the same price.  The SGI-labeled DAT
that does the music tricks is about $1,500 I think, perhaps less
used.  The Indy has done wonders for getting in at the bottom of
the SGI market.  Used Indigos are even less expensive.

- John


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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Problems with lightwave lite
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does anyone know where I could get docs for lightwave lite online???
there are a few operations I am having problems with and docs would
come in handy....

thanx


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From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Lightwave 3.x anims on Flyer???
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I had the same problem when I got my Flyer a year ago...but
the guys from NewTek told me back then (Jan. of 1995) that NOPE you
can't play the previous anims that you could play from the switcher of
the A4000....you just have to re-render them so the Flyer can
recognize the animations as a Flyer clip.

Lance ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Mstets)
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Subject: ScreamerNet Problems
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Hopefully someone has an answer to this.  I'm trying to render a scene
using the ScreamerNet module.  Following the directions in the manuals,
I got it up and running and then started Layout to load my scene in SN.
It initialized fine, and it looked like it was working, however there
was no output.  I made sure I had a save path for RGB images in my scene
file.  I tried for .iff and .tga output, no go.  When SN was running, it
was reporting each frame complete in about 1-2 seconds which seemed
awfully fast considering that outputting the same scene as an .avi was
taking up to 28 minutes per frame.  Maybe that has something to do with
it, I don't know.  Hopefully someone has a suggestion.  BTW I am running
LW 4.0 for Intel under Windows 95 and haven't had any other problems.
Thanks in advance.

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
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[e-mail] () wrote:

>does anyone know where I could get docs for lightwave lite online???
>there are a few operations I am having problems with and docs would
>come in handy....

>thanx

What is Lightwave Lite?

There is no official product with that name.

Dave



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From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
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I completely agree...$899 sounded ludicrous!!!  That is
compared to any add I've seen in VTU and the such.

-Lance

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Yeah, the Amiga is incredible in using the Flyer &
Toaster...I was so excited when I got my Flyer a year ago and thought
of the possibilities of using live video footage in my LW
animations---you can forget that...it is so darn slow it's pitiful.

    I'll never abandon my Amiga since is does such an awesome job
at everything else, but the PC's and especially Alphas make it just
too hard to go back to using Amiga LightWave.  And I'm talking simple
stuff---just as a test render the cow object completely glowing: it
takes 5 minutes on the Amiga---> try about 30 secs on a P100!!!

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From: [e-mail] (Kim Thomas)
Subject: NT Install questions
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OK, I had LW installed under Win3.1, and now I want it to run under NT
(one of my christmas presents). Do I need to do a complete re-install, or
just add the sentinal dongle drivers? Anything else I need to do to get
the best performance out of the system? Thanks.

BTW, the computer is a DX4/100, 32m ram.
--
Dave Thomas
Moving Pixels
"I haven't actually read your script, but I have
some questions about it" - Actual client quote
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (dokk)
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Hi there,

I am looking for a 3D package that is ideal for designing 3D interiors
for
a commercial VR-style game. I need the package to have accurate
modelling capabilities for aligning vertices correctly in 3D space,
and for quick and efficient application of mapping co-ordinates on
planar surfaces. The package needs to have an intuitive
user-interface, and to have the ability to export files in VRML, 3DS
and/or RWX file formats. Time, as ever, is a crucial factor here.

Any information you can provide would be very, very helpful. Many
thanks in advance!

Best wishes of the festive season!



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Prenter)
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Daniel Rodriguez <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm a 3d animator user of a PVR card with a Micropolis 4221AV running on
>Win95. During the PVR software startup i receive a "Unable to find hard
>disk"-like message. If i choose 'retry' the disk is recognized.

>Do you have the same problem? why this happend?

This occasionally happens to me under Win 3.1 but NEVER under NT.  Seems
like a software problem.

Just my $0.02.

                                                            Mark

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From: [e-mail]
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   How many issues have there been?

   How about $50?


Blacky



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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Problems with lightwave lite
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>>does anyone know where I could get docs for lightwave lite online???there are a few operations I am having problems with and docs would
come in handy....

thanx

<<

  Sorry, LightWave lite does not come with instructions..that's why it's called the
lite version..the leave out the manuals to save shipping costs.Good luck trying to
undertand LW.



Adam Chrystie

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From: [e-mail] (Marco Sederquist)
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I've been tring to import DXF files into LW but with no luck. All I get
are 1/2 models, Ex #1. Imported a Star Destroyer in DXF format. In Layout
it comes out with no upper deck. Ex #2. import X-wing Fighter, in layout
and modeler I get everything except the wings upper, lower, and front faces.
I've tried importing with all the different options with no luck. Any help
would be greatly enjoyed. Thanks in advance.
Marco
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
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Hi,

Does anyone know of a version of LZX for either the PC or SGI?

Cheers

Merry Christmas
Nigel.

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I've found that archived on the AMIGA often contain long file names
incompatible with the PC's 8.3 file name format. Especially if the
first 8 characters of the long file names are the same as are the case
in some Lightwave scenes I've downloaded. My unarchiver regards regards
these as duplicate files and ignores them. I've been able to the
extract individual files by first getting the names of all the files in
the archive and then pulling them out one at a time, by name then
renaming each one as its extracted. Is there a DOS/WINDOWS unarchiver
capable of intelligent un archiving ?
Thanks in advance
Tom Worthen
[e-mail]

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>It is a new alpha/beta that I got at work, we are beta testers for it.
>
>Brad


You do know Brad that as a beta tester you're breaking your
non-disclosure agreement you signed when you accepted your status as
such.  Curious, but where do you work?

GT


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Cosky)
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[e-mail] (Steve Koren) wrote:


>Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> drink...Habit..LW is fairly new and has not had enough time to make a

>It may not be as old as 3ds, but it is hardly new.  I've personally
>owned it for quite some time, and I didn't get it until version 3.5.  I
>don't know when the first LW came out, but I think it has been many years
>now.

>(Didn't LW start out with some other name back in the late 80s?  I'm a
>little fuzzy on the history).

>   - steve

Lightwave originally was two different programs, Videoscape 3d and
Modeler 3d by Allen (sp?) Hastings and Stuart Fergusen, respectively.
Videoscape was first @ about 1986 or 7, and Modeler followed shortly
thereafter because of the demand by users to not have to create
objects with x/y/z textfiles. Allen's rendering routines have been
refined for almost ten years now, and it's been a pleasure watching to
program evolve. I remember meeting him at an AmiExpo @ the intro of
v1.0 of Lightwave and being amazed at the improvements over
Videoscape. I hope they branch out more though, because I really want
integrated kinematics, audio support, real particle animation, and all
the other great things coming out these days.




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From: [e-mail] (Nightngl)
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Hmmm... every surface looked plastic. Let me think now but the last time I
checked 99.75% of toys were made of plastic. I could be wrong though.
Thanks for the insightful wisdom.

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In article: <4b5rpk$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] writes:
>
>
> >   The multitasking and stable file system are awesome.
>
>     They STILL suck compared to the Amiga OS.

Aaah the voice of reason at last. Thank you

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
          * Digital Candy BBS * [phone] (6nodes) *


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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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In article: <[e-mail]>  [e-mail] writes:
>
> Rich Comber wrote:
> > I've just purchased LW 4.0 and have to decide what version of Windows I
> > should install it on.  Considering I'm running it on a DX4-100 w/32MB RAM,
> > should I use Win 95 or Win NT and why?
>
> I've had great luck with Windows 95.  It seems very stable.  I use
> Director, Photoshop, many Internet apps, Lightwave and DOS games under
> 95 and have found it very crash proof and quite fast.  I am used to the
> Mac OS and have used it for 7 years now but am rapidly being converted.
>  The multitasking and stable file system are awesome.  The GUI is just
> as good as the Mac as well.  As far as Lightwave is concerned I
> experienced numerous problems with NT being VERY sensitive to devices
> and configuration. It kept losing it's kernel and the GUI sucks just
> like 3.1.  I never installed LW for NT and just went to 95.  I've heard
> various things here online about which is faster but according to the
> few LW plugin programmers I've spoken with there should be no issue with
> 95 and they are recoding to optimize for 95.  (This according to the
> programmer of Sparks and Fiber Factory).  IMHO go with 95, no doubt.
> Anyone found any conclusive reason to stay with NT?  Any benchmarks that
> indicate it's any faster?
> Best of luck,
> Ken

I really dont mean to offend Ken sir, but *maybe* you arent using the programs
you mentioned deeply enough to see how unstable 95 is. On a p90, 32m ram
it crashed quite frequently using Photoshop and regularly with LW (though not
to such a degree). NT in my experience has been almost a pleasure. Okay, it
might not LOOK as nice, but when you're used to working in an Amiga
environment and see multitasking nicely, then NT is the nearest Ive seen on
PC. It surprises me seeing as you are an apple fan (which STILL has the nicest
interface to look at (even though it feels like the computers holding your hand
as you're using it =)) as to why you like 95 at all!

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
          * Digital Candy BBS * [phone] (6nodes) *


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From: "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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In article: <4b621p$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Iain Young) writes:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> >>   The multitasking and stable file system are awesome.
>
> >    They STILL suck compared to the Amiga OS.
>
> Oh dear, not another biased Amiga owner. I have an Amiga and a PC, and
> I have to say I MUCH prefer the Win95 OS to the Amiga's any day. I
> guess everyone has their favourate system, and will think the the
> others are cack. I just say use what you like, and leave comments like
> this for a more appropriate newsgroup.

Right Ian. Me too. I have PC and ami and probably use them 40%-60% in that
order. Dont you just wish win95 (btw, you SHOULD use NT, its more stable
and I guarantee you 30%+ faster for using LW) would leave the harddisk
alone while you used the machine?

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
          * Digital Candy BBS * [phone] (6nodes) *


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Subject: Re: PowerView Amiga LW 4.0 UUENCODED
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From: [e-mail] (Ian Sinclair)
Date: 25 Dec 95 11:56:39 MST
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Thanks for the PowerView plugin!

Unfortunatly we Amiga owners still can't use it.  Hurry up NewTek!


<ICS>


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Subject: Re: LW information for dongle hating peeps
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 CD> There are better ways than a pathetic dongle, which I am happy to say
 CD> I no longer need with Animation Master since Hash Inc is using the
 CD> CD-ROM as the protection, no CD-ROM in the drive no Animation Master,
 CD> once the program starts you are free to remove the CD and put whatever
 CD> texture disks, etc in.

 CD> Dongles are a major pain, especially when you have 2, 3 or even 4
 CD> programs that require them.  Previously I had my Dongle for VREAM's
 CD> VRCreator (still gotta have that),  Animation Master dongle for 2.0
 CD> (not anymore :)   ) and a parallel port edition of the Iomega ZIP (now
 CD> using the SCSI version)  all connected to my parallel port so my damn
 CD> computer was sticking over the edge of my desk since I couldn't push
 CD> it back further.  And I don't think I should have to buy another
 CD> parallel port card or one of the extension cables to use software.
 CD> All the dongle pushing companies should pay attention to what Hash is
 CD> doing and put the protection on the CD.


Although dongles are a major pain in the ass, they are the best solution at
this time.

Although a CD-Rom protection scheme is great, the price of CD-Rom mastering
machines is now getting so cheap, it negates this protection scheme as well.

The real solution to piracy is the unique serial number scheme used in
machines like the SGIs.  Much better.  But, I'm sure people have problems
with this as well.  Yes, I've heard them.


I was wondering if Amiga Technologies should consider making the switch to
unique serial numbers in every Amiga.  It would certainly attract developer
notice.

However, I think it would have a serious negative impact on Amiga sales to
new owners of the machine.  Users just wouldn't like it.

OTOH, if PCs also made this leap, Amigas could easily do it.  Of course, then
there is no developer advantage anymore on the one platform.  Just the one
huge advantage all developers would get.  Now I wonder, would they lower
prices or stick it to the consumer?


Look at PC based CD-ROM software...  Lots of titles, little piracy, and a lot
of steep prices.

So what happened to cheap software when piracy isn't a factor?


I digress...  Give me Lightwave4.0 on Aniga CD-ROM!


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Subject: Re: Toy Story
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From: [e-mail] (Ian Sinclair)
Date: 25 Dec 95 12:14:31 MST
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 > Well you won't get any heat from me. This is not the result of only 3-4
 > years of time to produce. This is the look that the PIXAR productions
 > seem to produce. If you've seen any other pieces (Luxo, Jr., Sesame Street
 > shorts, etc.) they all have that certain something you're talking about in
 > image quality. According to Wired Mag's interview with Lasiter, the people
 > were heavily stylized because they were secondary to the story (and they
 > are hard to do...)


I had no problems with Pixar's style of toy animation, or the rooms and
scenery for that matter.  But I did think the illusion was spoiled as soon as
the animated people arrived in a scene.

If they had been live actors, perhaps the completely different nature between
real and animate objects would have served the film better in this respect?


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New DEC Alpha prices
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On Sun 24-Dec-1995  5:13a, Dan Lutz wrote:
DL> Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
DL> 275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

DL> $3695!!!!

DL> Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
DL> 1.44 floppy, 1 Gig fast SCSI 2 HD, 2X CD-ROM, Diamond PCI 2 MB graphics
DL> card,
DL> Keyboard, Mouse, 2MB cache, and more.

DL> Just thought everyone would like to know.

DL> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone from Anti Gravity

DL> Prices effective Jan 1, 1996



DL> --
DL>                                              [e-mail]

I am currently checking into the different systems and would like to know, is
this rendersaurus an Aspen system with a different neme? I was looking at your
add in VTU and noticed the little Aspen sign in the corner.
 Also can you give me an estimate price on the 21164 266mhz LW set-up please.
 And e-mail it to me if you could?

thanx a zillion.....................md

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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On Sat 23-Dec-1995  9:37p, Lance Gray wrote:
LG> I have been using LightWave on the Amiga for the past 2 years...just
LG> got it for my Pentium100---If you had to use it on the Amiga you would
LG> never complain about redraw times on a PC!!!!  Very fast indeed...my
LG> Amiga4000 is now used for the Flyer & Toaster only---> the PC is
LG> worlds ahead in speed over any Amiga (that's unfortunate because I
LG> love my Amiga!!)

This is why I am now looking into getting an Alpha system to do LW. Even
though I love my Amiga, What's the POINT in doing LW on an Amiga with such
slow speeds?.........People keep saying to get the 060 and act like that would
be great.........get real. The *WHOLE* rest of the world uses p100s at a
minimum to get things done..................md

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From: "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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In article: <4bfo5k$[e-mail]>  Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> [e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:
> >
> >> Simple answer really.
> >> You can tell *INSTANTLY* if somethings been done in 3ds!
> >> With LW, you can't!
> >
> >Why is this? I've always thought it but I can't put my finger on why. The
> >surface textures are an odd sort of silk finish, in the main, and this
> >stands out a mile, but what is it that gives 3DS this "signature"?
> >
>
> Just a theory,I read somewhere that 3DS calculates colors in
> 64bit color space, then down samples to 24bit on output. This
> may cause the colors to be "too real". I'm not sure how LW
> calculates colors, I think only gradients are calculated at
> 96bits to eliminate banding. Just a thought

You could also guess at possibly the default level of 3ds' ambience level
is cranked right off the scale!

           * Robert Dorney * Red Devil of Dual Crew^Shining *
    * Head of Art and Graphics at Eden Entertainment Software Ltd *
          * Digital Candy BBS * [phone] (6nodes) *


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper)
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>>I'll probably be flamed for saying this but IMHO 3d Studio is an animated
>CAD
>>package whereas LW is a photo realistic animation package.
>>

>I agree, but you'd be more likely to be flamed in the 3d Studio newsgroup.
><g>

Once again I say wrong! It all comes down to the user. Using one
package or another doesn't matter. It is the artist who has the talent
and not the program.

Jeff


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>   [e-mail] (JBooth411) writes:
>  In article <4bdspv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>  >>  I think Toy Story was nothing less than excellent. It had the look of
>  >>  Nightmare Before Christmas.
>  >
>  >    ??? Better get your eyes checked.

>      I second that. Nightmare was amazing, but looks nothing like toy
>  story. I personaly thought Nightmare was much more amazing than toy story,
>  but being a CGI artists, maybe thats blasphamy, maybe not..

    Don't be silly:  that's like painters dissin' sculptors.

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From: "Justin S. Barrett" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lense flares and antialiasing
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Joel K. Erickson wrote:

> I must be doing something wrong, but after each antialiasing pass my
> lense flares are entirely rerendering. This is tripling my rendering time.
> I'm using LW3.1 Amiga... any suggestions as to what may be wrong?

Nothing.  That's the way LW handles lens flares when anti-aliasing.
It's usually a tad quicker in rendering lens flares in the AA passes
than it is when rendering the first pass, but there's no way around
it to my knowledge.

--
Justin Barrett
[e-mail]
Free Spirit Productions

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Durham)
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Subject: Re: New DEC Alpha prices
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[e-mail] (TPeirce9) wrote:

>A couple questions:

>Any system memory included?

>What's the new price if LW Alpha is bundeled in?


>>Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
>>275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

>>$3695!!!!

>>Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
>>1.44 floppy, 1 Gig fast SCSI 2 HD, 2X CD-ROM, Diamond PCI 2 MB graphics
>card,
>>Keyboard, Mouse, 2MB cache, and more.

>>Just thought everyone would like to know.

>>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone from Anti Gravity

>>Prices effective Jan 1, 1996

I hear the actual retail for the alpha version is going to be $1995
like the SGI version.  Just rumor as far as I know

Chuck Durham
Imaginative Entertainment
[e-mail]
http://www.imaginative.com
http://www.xspot.com



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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Durham)
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Subject: Re: FS:Every issue of Lightwave Pro/VTU
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:44:47 GMT
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[e-mail] (Benjamin Carver) wrote:

>Best offer takes every issue published=valuable information that has
>helped me on numerous job's.

You may not get much at this point with the release of a Book and
CD-ROM with the best of Lightwave Pro.  You get all the best
tutorials, tips, etc and it includes a CD-ROM.  The price I believe is
like $39 or something close.  But still what your offering is
everything, not just the best

Chuck Durham
Imaginative Entertainment
[e-mail]
http://www.imaginative.com
http://www.xspot.com



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From: linu$@ns1.flinet.com (James Rathgate)
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Subject: Re: PowerView Bugs?
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Ernie Wright ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Lito wrote:

: *  Modeler crashes when the butterfly object is viewed.  This is a
:    bug in the Modeler plug-in interface, which doesn't handle detail
:    polygons correctly.  Won't be fixed soon.

Umm couldn't you just make a plugin that finds detail polys and splits it
up into several little polys(ie subdivide it)?? Just a thought..it would
save a LOT of time on your plugins... Hell gimme a little more time and
I'll have time/resources to write one that will scan a dir for objs with
detail polys and convert 'em.. Sound cool to all??



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From: [e-mail](Thomas Worthen)
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Is this newsgroup archived at an FTP accessible site ? I would like to
catch up on "back issues".
Thanks in advance
(soon to be lightwave user)
Tom Worthen
[e-mail]

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On 23 Dec 1995, John McKenzie wrote:

> Chrysolithos ([e-mail]);
>
>  I expect no one here speaks about reboot because it has nothing to do
> with lightwave, and also there is a Reboot newsgroup. You may or may not
> know it already, but just in case you don't, it is the best place for
> Reboot discussion and is called alt.tv.reboot.
>
First of all, I was mostly kidding. Sombody asked about Toy Story and why
we hadn't said anything about it here when I'd already read several msgs
on that very subject.  So I asked about Reboot in order to mention a
computer animation show that I had not seen discussed here.
Secondly,...

Nothing to do with LightWave?!? It's 3d computer animation, isn't it?  Last
time I checked, LightWave was 3d computer animation software.  I'm sorry
if I made a mistake, but I had hoped that we could occasionaly
discuss general things about animation. I was curious about other people
here thought about Reboot.
And thank you for mentioning the newsgroup, but I'm already aware of it.


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Could some one please help me out with using the powerview plugin for
the 4.0 modeler. I added the plugin and I do have the win95 opengl
.dll's. But I cannot seem to get anything to work. Any help here would
be appreciated

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From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Win95 & Win for Workgroups
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:36:44 -0800
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Just curious---I just installed Win95 on my P100 with some
trouble, but finally got it workin.  I installed LW4.0 and the
animations took actually longer to render going from the texture
example of 57 secs. to around 95 secs.???  I went back to 3.11 for
workgroups--->did I not set something up right, because I am under the
assumption that Win95 should definately be faster than Win for
Workgroups?!?!?

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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Subject: Re: AMIGA HD BACK-UP
Date: 23 Dec 1995 17:14:49 GMT
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In article <4bfshi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <4ben3l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(BrainIsle) writes:
>
>>Can anyone suggest a moderately priced tape storage hard drive backup for
>>the Amiga. Looking to back up around 600Mb with full compatability.
>>SCSI ok. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance...
>
>    Actualy, you can find single speed cd-writers for around $500 these
>days, which is a much better deal than most tape backups, in terms of
>accessability, and speed.

5-15 GIG 8mm tapes are about $8, and 650 meg CD-Rs are about $8.
I think tapes hold more data.  If you want speed and access,
get another hard drive.  And is there any software for Amigas
for multiple-session CD recording?

>Does anyone know if a company makes a DAT machine that acts as both a
>backup unit, and a music DAT??? I'd LOVE to get one..

Yes, SGI.

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Baby Jocko)
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Subject: FS:  Sanyo GVR-S950 S-VHS Animation Recorder
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The Sanyo GVR-950 S-VHS Single Frame Recorder is an industrial built deck
for recording computer animations or for any S-VHS recording/viewing.

You can record your 3D-Studio, Lightwave 3D, trueSpace, ect. animations
directly to this from your computer via its RS-232/RS-422 interface.

FEATURES INCLUDE:
  Video and Audio Computer/editor - Controlled Switcher
  Dual Hi-Fi Stereo inputs
  SMPTE Time Code Generator and Reader
  Insert Editing
  Jog Dial/Shuttle Ring
  Vibration suppressing MID-MOUNT design
  55 dB Signal to Noise Video
  Computer/Manual Control
  Windows, Amiga Interfacing Software
  Windows Animation Software


SELLING PRICE:  $1200       LIST PRICE:  >$3000

Contact Pierre @ 770-978-7354 in Atlanta



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From: linu$@ns1.flinet.com (James Rathgate)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: FS:A3000 Toaster DCTV System
Date: 26 Dec 1995 18:47:51 GMT
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Here's what I have:

A3000 2chip 4 FAST(unsure what size HD to include...prolly a 330megger..SCSI)
Toaster 2000 card with 3.1 software
TBC IV
DCTV(for displaying 24bit anims)
Taming the Wave Video Set plus 2 disks(no manual unfortunately)
Destop Images' Modeller and Surfaces Videos

Plus various software that will help out with using all the above hardware.

$2500(US) obo

BTW-I can't split this system up unless I have a buyer for everything.
Thanx and L8a

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I'm a 3d animator user of a PVR card with a Micropolis 4221AV running on
Win95. During the PVR software startup i receive a "Unable to find hard
disk"-like message. If i choose 'retry' the disk is recognized.

Do you have the same problem? why this happend?


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From: [e-mail] (John McKenzie)
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 Mark Dunakin ([e-mail]):


 I only spent 2 short lines asking him not to do that, and I answered his
question. That is hardly cause for telling me to lighten up.

 The same person has posted in all caps on many other messages inclueding
FS: 2000 TOASTER SYSTEM and WTB: LIGHTWAVE. He is doing it intentionally.
Now he knows, regardless of why he was doing that he shouldn't.

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I have to agree with Adam!  I've used LightWave for about 2
years on an Amiga with my Toaster prior to last week getting for my
PC.  If you were to look in ANY animation magazine about a year ago
you wouldn't see a single ad for LightWave...now check 'em out...I see
atleast a couple in every Animation magazine--->the PC will definately
get it much exposure---the platform is just too popular and so is
LightWave to not be recognized even more within the next year!

-Lance Gray

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From: [e-mail] (Don - Hirschfeld)
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Subject: How can I make a rounded 3D object from an outline?
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    I'm doing a project where I wanted to make different kinds of
fish. I would use the picture of the fish in the background and trace
around the outline with points. Tripling these and then extruding gives
me a good starting point for a 3D version of the fish. The problem is
making the body of the fish extend out rounded, leaving the fins
narrow. I would subdivide or use metaform and then use the magnet tool
to pull out the points in a bell shape then narrow the fins with the
stretch tool. This gives me an acceptable object for background shots,
but it doesn't look so great for closeups. I wanted more rounded and
tapered body sections. Subdividing too much to give more points to
pull out, but increases the polygon count too much.
    What would be a procedure I could use starting with just an
outline to give a more natural looking object? Should I fill within
the outline with a matrix of points?

    Don Hirschfeld  http://www.portal.com/~donrh

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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In article <4blgto$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chuck Durham)
writes:

>I just ordered LightWave 4.0 NT Intel Version of $749 from AntiGravity
>Products.  The price they had was $769, but I got a quote from a
>company in New York for $749 and AntiGravity matched with thier price
>guarantee,  I've dealt with AG so I was much more comfortable ordering
>it from them.

      I've had a lot of problems with anti-gravity. We ordered a copy of
lightwave from them to be sent overnight (payed like $35 extra for over
night), well, the next day it wasn't there so I called them and they
hadn't even shipped it. They said they wern't going to be able to ship it
untill the following week. What I want to know is why the hell they didn't
tell me that when I ordered it in the first place. I told them explicitly
that we needed another LW seat for that weekend, and needed it overnight,
which, of course, they said was no problem. I will never order from them
again, and neither will my company. Beware of AG, they will lie quite
blatantly on the phone...


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From: [e-mail]
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Anyone gotten Samba to work with PAR?
I've gotten everything mounted, but when you open the requester to
"Save RGB" in lightwave and give the file name, it says unknown format
on the PAR side, and no permission to modify on the NT side,
Additionally, I can FTP from both NT and 95 (CuteFTP32  is very kind
for this it supports Directories and long filenames) I can Samba from
NT, why can't I samba from 95?


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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
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>      I use lightwave for game developement, and I think you'll see a lot
> of people switching over from 3ds to lightwave, and not going to Max. The
> reasons are simple, first, lightwave supports npolygons (greater than 3
> points).

I doubt it MAX will be a cheaper and better upgrade tham having to buy
all new seats of Lightwave. I like Lightwave but I doubt any big
transitions. 3DSr4 and MAX have splines and polygon modeling which makes
it quite versitile. You can also get a NURBS modeler via plug-in if you
need one.

 Anyone involved with real-time work knows that quadrangles and
> greater polygons draw much faster than several tri's making up the same
> shape. Plus, with the quadraic texture mapping boards coming out, 3ds is
> totaly useless, as they require quads for there smothing algorithm. Sure,
> you could write a program to merge colinear polygons, but why? And how are
> you going to check to make sure their all co-linear pairs in 3ds? Not by
> hand, for sure.

You can also accelerate spline objects with certain accelerators. That
is why Animation Master id getting support from the Nivida chipset in
the Diamond cards and other such cards. Ever hear of Optimize for 3DS?
It will cut your polygon count in half or even less if you want it to. I
think all gameing companies using 3DS use Optimize.

>The second thing is that 3dsMax will be spline based,
> making it great for animation, but poor for controling polygon counts.
> 3ds's tools are not designed for trimming polygons, and fussing around
> with your model untill it's under your limit. Lightwave is perfect for
> this.

Max will be a spline and polygon modeler just like 3DSr4 with 3D Surfer.
Max also will ship with Optimize built into the base package. It will
let you define your polygon count after you make your object. It is an
incredible tool for creating objects that render super fast with no loss
in detail.

>3ds may still be the 'cut scene' king for a while, but lightwave
> blows it away for low polygon modeling - and believe me - we have some
> ex-3ds artists in our company, who love the program, but would never
> consider it a contender for low-polygon modeling.

Once again it's obvious that you have never used 3DS in any extent.
3DSr4 and MAX still create incredibly low polygon objects if used
correctly. Yeah you can loft or skin an object with the steps set way
high and get a super high poly count then trim it down with Optimize, or
you can model smartly from the beginning or work with patches instead of
polys. I'm not ripping on Lightwave in any way, cause I know Lightwave
can hold it's own, but you are completely wrong about 3D Studio.

Jeff

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From: Casey Condo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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I just recieved the Book called Exploring lightwave 3D. I must say I am
very disapointed. I found numerous errors in the book, and it mainly seems
like a reprint of the manual and various VTU articles.

I would not recomend it.




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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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MessageID ......: <[e-mail]>
Originally from : Dan Lutz <[e-mail]>
Subject ........: New DEC Alpha prices

Anti Gravity is proud to announce new pricing for the DEC Alpha 21064
275Mhz Windows NT Workstations.

$3695!!!!

Includes Rendersaurus 275Mhz system with Windows NT case, power supply,
1.44 floppy, 1 Gig fast SCSI 2 HD, 2X CD-ROM, Diamond PCI 2 MB graphics card,
Keyboard, Mouse, 2MB cache, and more.

Just thought everyone would like to know.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone from Anti Gravity

Prices effective Jan 1, 1996



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From: John Brandwood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Pentium vs Pentium Pro for Lightwave
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[e-mail] (ZzzTony) wrote:
>Need some advice.  Shopping for computer to run Lightwave.  What have
>people heard about Pentium Pro.  I know it is mainly for 32 bit apps,
>which I think Lightwave is.  Does anyone know if Photoshop is 32 bit?
>On a related note,  I want to get a PVR.  I understand it needs 2 full
>length PCI slots for card and daughtercard.  It seems its hard to find
>computers that have full length slots.
>Thanks for your advice.

The magazines have said that the Pentium Pro can be slower than an
ordinary Pentium when running 16-bit code. So it's benefits will
only be cost-effective when running 32-bit code.

The magazines have also pointed out that Win95 still contains a lot
of 16-bit code for compatability. WinNT on the other hand is 32-bit
from the ground up. How much performance you would lose would depend
upon how much time LightWave spends executing those 16-bit operating
system calls, which I suspect would be very little time at all,
particularly when rendering.

AFAIK the latest Photoshop update (3.04?) is 32-bit. This was released
for Win95 compatability, and the move from 16-bit to 32-bit seemed to
break some of the 16-bit plugins.

If you decide to stick with a fast Pentium, then look for a system
with an Intel Endevor motherboard. It has 3 ISA slots and 4 PCI slots
(one slot is shared). The CPU sits behind the ISA slots, so all the
PCI slots are full length. It also had a SoundBlaster16 built into
the motherboard, saving an ISA slot, and allowing you to play games
if you so desire.

Since the PVR doesn't contain an audio interface, you could use the
SoundBlaster for this, but I'd recommend a Turtle Beach Tahiti or
Monterey instead if you care about sound quality.

John.



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From: [e-mail] (Nanook of the South)
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Subject: NewTek FTP Site
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:33:06 GMT
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NewTek's FTP site is back on-line.  It's directly connected to my
backbone so there should be no lacking for speed.

Enjoy Y'all
 L8r G8r
  Keith
SoundNet Admin
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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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+-- [e-mail] (Iain Young) writes:
| NT is quite nice if you have LOADS of memory, (ie 32mb+), but I don't
| think it will ever catch on for the home user as it requires a very
| powerful machine to get the most out of it.

Just to give an alternate viewpoint, I have a 486-66 with 16 megs of
RAM and run NT all the time.  I compile, debug, edit files, read mail,
compose graphics and images, and of course do 3D stuff with LightWave
and I never have a problem.  I prefer its stability over other MS
operating systems.  The only time I have a problem is when I'm working
on a large object in Modeler with the debugger running, or when I try
to render a very intensive scene.  In those cases it pages like crazy,
although it often settles down after a while when it picks a good
working set.  Otherwise I'm prefectly content.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kosarovich)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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The latest NewTek said was they were looking at FireWire, but nothing
would come of it for over a year at least.  I can't see an easy way
for a third party to interface it in, but I guess miracles do happen.

For myself, I'm planning on using analog transmission to my Flyer.  It's
only one way, but having a high quality source and sending it to HQ5
should be pretty impressive.  As long as the D/A and A/D is as clean
as Sony and NewTek say it is.

Eugene

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From: Eric Jones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Matrox Millenium 3D Accel. Instructions (was:Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium)
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TPeirce9 wrote:
>
> I put a Millenium in my machine today for use with PowerView in Windows NT
> Intel.  I believe I have all the drivers and settings correct but the
> results are no different than the Stealth 64 2 MVRAM so far.  I am waiting
> to hear from Matrox about the non-performance gain with OpenGL.

In order to activate the 3d OpenGL acceleration on a WinNT machine:

1) Make sure you have the latest NT driver. You can get it from their BBS (no
internet presence, that I'm aware of).

2) In NT, run your registry editor (regedt32). Travel to this key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\mgax64\Device0

Three values in this node control the 3d acceleration:

User3D.DoubleBuffer
User3D.ZBuffer
User3D.SubPixel

Double click on these entries, change then to "1". (...SubPixel is optional - it
causes the card to generate more precise polygons, but at the cost of speed. I
usually keep it off).

All of this is reiterated in the ReadMe.nt file that comes with the newest
driver.

Good luck!

Eric Jones
Digital Imagery

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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I wrote:

> I believe that you can get better rendering throughput by running two
> Lightwave's on one machine, each rendering every other frame.

Ooops!  I accidentally posted a message about Lightwave in the Lightwave
group.  I now realize that this is against the charter of this group,
and I should have asked something like, "What is the best power supply
to use in my system?"

Sorry.  I won't let it happen again. :-)

  - steve

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: ****Happy New Year****
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:25:34 GMT
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I want to wish everyone here a Happy New Year!!!!!!!!
and have a safe one.Remember,DON'T drink and Model!

Wayne
:)




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Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium 3D Accel. Instructions (was:Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium)
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Yes, we do see a substantial improvement with the Matrox card. Sorry I can't
quantify it for you, but it is unquestionably significant.

Just a thought- have you applied the latest service packs from Microsoft for
WinNT (they're up to Service Pack 3 now). I recall that there was a bug involving
OpenGL that was addressed by the Service Pack.

Also, what applications are you using to see OpenGL? I assume you know that LW
won't do it (the new PowerView plug-in is the only thing that would take
advantage of your card).

The Matrox also accelerates Microsoft's Rendermorphics API. Maybe you could get a
demo of some of their software for testing purposes.

Good luck.

E



TPeirce9 wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tips.  I already tried them all. I put several hours into
> making this card workable and no improved performance over the Diamond.
> Have you seen an improvement with your 3D with the Millenium?
>
>
> > I put a Millenium in my machine today for use with PowerView in Windows
> NT
> > Intel.  I believe I have all the drivers and settings correct but the
> > results are no different than the Stealth 64 2 MVRAM so far.  I am
> waiting
> > to hear from Matrox about the non-performance gain with OpenGL.
>
> >>In order to activate the 3d OpenGL acceleration on a WinNT machine:
>
> >>1) Make sure you have the latest NT driver. You can get it from their
> BBS (no
> >>internet presence, that I'm aware of).
>
> >>2) In NT, run your registry editor (regedt32). Travel to this key:
>
> >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\mgax64\Device0
>
> >>Three values in this node control the 3d acceleration:
>
> >>User3D.DoubleBuffer
> >>User3D.ZBuffer
> >>User3D.SubPixel
>
> >>Double click on these entries, change then to "1". (...SubPixel is
> optional - it
> >>causes the card to generate more precise polygons, but at the cost of
> speed. I
> >>usually keep it off).
>
> >>All of this is reiterated in the ReadMe.nt file that comes with the
> newest
> >>driver.
>
> >>Good luck!
>
> >>Eric Jones
> >>Digital Imagery

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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Subject: Re: PowerView Bugs?
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In article <4bpf88$[e-mail]>, linu$@ns1.flinet.com (James
Rathgate) writes:

>Umm couldn't you just make a plugin that finds detail polys and splits it

>up into several little polys(ie subdivide it)?? Just a thought..it would
>save a LOT of time on your plugins... Hell gimme a little more time and
>I'll have time/resources to write one that will scan a dir for objs with
>detail polys and convert 'em.. Sound cool to all??

    Please be aware that modeler seems to crash when any detail polygon is
processed, you'd have to split the polygons off in an external program,
seperate from modeler.

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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
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Subject: Re: Pentium vs Pentium Pro for Lightwave
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Has anyone seen LW running on a P6??

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From: [e-mail] (TPeirce9)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium 3D Accel. Instructions (was:Re: LW4 and Matrox Millenium)
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Thanks for the tips.  I already tried them all. I put several hours into
making this card workable and no improved performance over the Diamond.
Have you seen an improvement with your 3D with the Millenium?




> I put a Millenium in my machine today for use with PowerView in Windows
NT
> Intel.  I believe I have all the drivers and settings correct but the
> results are no different than the Stealth 64 2 MVRAM so far.  I am
waiting
> to hear from Matrox about the non-performance gain with OpenGL.

>>In order to activate the 3d OpenGL acceleration on a WinNT machine:

>>1) Make sure you have the latest NT driver. You can get it from their
BBS (no
>>internet presence, that I'm aware of).

>>2) In NT, run your registry editor (regedt32). Travel to this key:

>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\mgax64\Device0

>>Three values in this node control the 3d acceleration:

>>User3D.DoubleBuffer
>>User3D.ZBuffer
>>User3D.SubPixel

>>Double click on these entries, change then to "1". (...SubPixel is
optional - it
>>causes the card to generate more precise polygons, but at the cost of
speed. I
>>usually keep it off).

>>All of this is reiterated in the ReadMe.nt file that comes with the
newest
>>driver.

>>Good luck!

>>Eric Jones
>>Digital Imagery


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> >my polygon counts were..
> >NCC1701D_3DS = 12,758
> >NCC1701D_LW4 = 3,301
> >
> >as you can see it is a huge improvement in the LW4 model...
> >oh, by the way both of my models look identical.....
>
>     Remember also that it would be a lot closer if 3ds supported
> npolygons.

You can significantly reduce polygon count by useing splines in 3DS
instead of polygons. Also you can use Optimize to get rid of all
excessive polygons on your models. I wounder if the orginal poster used
either of these two methods?

Jeff

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From: "Gene Z. Ragan" <[e-mail]>
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R3000 Indigo
LG1 (8 bit) Graphics
17" Monitor
56 MB RAM
300 MB Internal/650MB External
Keyboard/Mouse
IRIX 5.3
Lightwave 3D 4.0

Great modelling/ScreamerNet system.

$4000.00 or best offer.

Thanks, Gene ([e-mail])



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From: [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: interesting observation about LW render/file write
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[e-mail] said:

>I wrote:
>
>> I believe that you can get better rendering throughput by running two
>> Lightwave's on one machine, each rendering every other frame.
>
>Ooops!  I accidentally posted a message about Lightwave in the Lightwave
>group.  I now realize that this is against the charter of this group,
>and I should have asked something like, "What is the best power supply
>to use in my system?"
>
>Sorry.  I won't let it happen again. :-)

   No worries!

   Hey, who knows, you might start a trend... :)

   Re: your theory... I can see where, if you're just doing
composites, there might be some significant time saved -- especially
if those dog-slow HIIP loaders/savers are being used (assuming they
are ever updated so they actually work. :)

   -Jim

James G. Jones
Nibbles & Bits
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Cory Arnold)
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Subject: Re: ScreamerNet Problems
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:10:28 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mstets) wrote:

>Hopefully someone has an answer to this.  I'm trying to render a scene
>using the ScreamerNet module.  Following the directions in the manuals,
>I got it up and running and then started Layout to load my scene in SN.
>It initialized fine, and it looked like it was working, however there
>was no output.  I made sure I had a save path for RGB images in my scene
>file.  I tried for .iff and .tga output, no go.  When SN was running, it
>was reporting each frame complete in about 1-2 seconds which seemed
>awfully fast considering that outputting the same scene as an .avi was
>taking up to 28 minutes per frame.  Maybe that has something to do with
>it, I don't know.  Hopefully someone has a suggestion.  BTW I am running
>LW 4.0 for Intel under Windows 95 and haven't had any other problems.
>Thanks in advance.

make sure *ALL* your paths in your scene file AREN'T host-relative
(make sure they DONT start with a drive letter)
*this applies to lw.cfg & lwm.cfg too*
they should go through 'network neighborhood' as a root
and start with the computer name.
ie-
//GATEWAY2000/SYQUEST88/objects/teapot.lwo
find your files under network neighborhood a take note of the path
*enable 'show full path in title bar' property*
it uses drive names that you define, not "X:\" as in dos & win3x
Use wordpad to clean up all your scene & .cfg file paths.
best wishes

--
**************************************
*Cory Arnold, Horizon Film & Graphics*
*....http://www.izzy.net/~cory.......*
**************************************


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From: [e-mail] (JKrause357)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: F.S. A2000 TOASTER SYSTEM
Date: 23 Dec 1995 17:32:21 -0500
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UPGRADING O A4000 TOASTER
FOR SALE
AMIGA 2000
MEGA-CHIP
12 MEGS OF FAST RAM
540 HARD DRIVE
KEYBOARD , MAUALS,
TOASTER 2000 W/ 4.07 SOFTWARE
$1300.00

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: ***HELP!! Frozen Pointer***
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On Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:01:05 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
->All pf a sudden my Mouse pointer is frozen in the upper left
->hand cornere of the workbench screen.Any ideas????
->(amiga 2000)

what were you doing last just before it happened?  And how did you post
this if it's still frozen?  From another machine?

Bob


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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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I've uploaded the OpenGL drivers for Windows95 to the NewTek FTP site.
Right now they're in the 'incoming' directory, but I'm sure they will be
moved to somewhere more appropriate next week. But for now, you can find
the PowerView plugins in the 'Upgrades' directory, and that's all you need
if you're running NT. If you're using Win95, you'll need to get the
'opengl95.zip' file and unarchive the 2 files in there to your
Windows/system directory in order to use PowerView with Win95.

Happy Holidays!

--
      ______________________________________________________________
     /     John Crookshank         | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \
    |  MicroTech Solutions, Inc.   | Lightwave 3D, Toaster/Flyer     |
    | Desktop Video Systems Dealer | JVC Professional Video Products |
    | NewTek Systems Group Dealer  | PVR, Speed Razor, and more.     |
    |------------------------------|---------------------------------|
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
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In article <4bpd5n$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail](Thomas Worthen) wrote:
>I've found that archived on the AMIGA often contain long file names
>incompatible with the PC's 8.3 file name format. Especially if the
>first 8 characters of the long file names are the same as are the case
>in some Lightwave scenes I've downloaded. My unarchiver regards regards
>these as duplicate files and ignores them. I've been able to the
>extract individual files by first getting the names of all the files in
>the archive and then pulling them out one at a time, by name then
>renaming each one as its extracted. Is there a DOS/WINDOWS unarchiver
>capable of intelligent un archiving ?
>Thanks in advance
>Tom Worthen
>[e-mail]

Hi - I'm in the same process at the moment. I've decided to unLHA everything
still on the Amiga and zip it instead. The latest Win95 WinZIP for the PC will
handle long filenames and place everything correctly. A bit of a pain, but I
haven't found an LHA for the PC that can handle long names. I think the latest
version I saw was 3 years old - while the PC was still in 8.3.

Hope that helps.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart TAS OZ

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From: [e-mail] (CGI GROUP)
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Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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Oh , you must not have had your Amiga 1000 when the '286 AT was around.
If the Amiga had a 100 Mhz. CPU,  Microsoft would be in the fight of it's
life to beat the Amiga OS.  In 1987 Commodore had a chance to kick ass
because all the major hardware vendors had about equal performance.
History will show that no matter how good your product is, you have to
keep focused.

Rick

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
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>   I don't like getting int expensive products if soon down the road they get
> broke or don't offer upgrades or customer support.  I'm worried that LW will
> soon go extinct like the Amiga computer, killed by that all powerfull 3D giant
> Autodesk.  I'm too poor to shovel out $6000 bucks for 3dspro, and all them
> plugins!

It's actually called 3DS MAX and only cost about $3,500 and ships with
practically all the plug-ins you'll need built in. I doubt NewTek is
going under anytime soon, Lightwave 4.0 has been a BIG boost for them.
Since Lightwave PC is around $750 mail order it may be a better choice
for you, it will get you everything you need to compete with the big
studios at a great price. If that is still too much then I would look at
either Truespace or Matin Hash's 3D Animation. Both go for around $200.
Animation Master is around $650 but if your on a budget and have time to
learn by yourself MHA is a better deal.

>   I have noticed worridly that there is a growing trend towards monopolies and
> consolidation in the PC biz.  Microsoft totaly rules operating systems, intel
> makes virtualy all the processers, ect.  Someone I know on another online
> service says he saw 3ds PRO at the Siggraph show and he said it totaly blew
> Lightwave and practicaly everything else out of the water.  Totaly reprogrammed
> and reddone with far superior interface and all.

Microsoft make a nice OS but they are hardly a monopoly. You don't see
Windows running on a Mac or SGI, do you? Intel isn't a monopoly either,
there is AMD, Cyrix which were doing great with 486 sales, and PowerPC
which is really nice on a Mac, and Alpha, there are a bunch of Lightwave
users running Alpha systems, and MIPS, gotta love those SGIs! AutoDesk
in no way is a monopoly over 3D animation, very very far from it. Max is
a nice NT port though.

>   Lightwave just sticks to it's increasingly archeaic design.  There is no
>  marketing of it, while 3ds plugins get advertised all the time.  Autodesk has
> a whole army of programmers, New Tek got just 2 or 3!

Lightwave is getting updated, you have to remember it's in it's first
release on the PC, MIPS, and Alpha. They just added a real time preview
shader to the modeler, and I expect other changes will happen. The Yost
group who develops 3DS only has like 6 or 8 programmers, yeah there are
a lot of plug-in manufacturers, but Lightwave is getting support too in
this area. NewTek has more than 3 programmers I do believe.

>   Is there going to be a Lightwave 5.0 anytime soon?  Will it offer goodies
> as great as the new 3ds but without that huge sticker price?

I'm sure you can expect a 4.5 or 5.0 version sometime in the future, but
4.0 has a lot of features that MAX has already without the sticker
shock. If I were you I would shop around and try out various packages
and decide for yourself what works well for you. There is a program
called Real 3D by Realsoft that does some incredible things that no
other PC package can do for the price, but again it's a personal choice
as to if you like working with a program like that or not.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (Radiobyfm9)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Connecting Amiga to PC by Serial Port?
Date: 26 Dec 1995 22:12:33 -0500
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I use Link It for transferring Lightwave animations from pc to amiga for
single-framing to tape.  My only wish is that it went faster.  Are they
going to come out with a parrell port version for PC-Amiga
transfers.....that would speed things up, wouldn't it?...It does work with
windows 95.

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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
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Subject: Renaming Help
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:08:07 GMT
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To all you DOS or NT experts out there.  Do you know of a way to batch
rename a bunch of files that are named like this:

file.001
file.002
to:

file001.pct
file002.pct

etc.


Please email me the answer.

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From: "David R. Stromberger" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FOR SALE:  PAR , WACOM and otehr stuff
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FOR SALE:

1300.00        PAR for Amiga with Micropolis 1.7 gig
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800.00         Sunrise Industries AD516 Audio card w/1gig HD
200.00         A-500 w/external drive + Supra RAM 2mb
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If you are interested in any items, call 509-327-4704
Please do not e-mail me, as these items are not mine.

Dave

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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Subject: Re: LIGHTWAVE ON 4000T?
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On Thu 14-Dec-1995 11:31p, JKrause357 wrote:
J> IS ANYONE CURRENTLY USING THE TOASTER/LIGHTWAVE ON
J> A NEW 4000T?
J> HOW WELL DOES IT WORK AND IS IT COMPELETLY COMPATIBLE OR ARE THERE SOME
J> COMPATIBILITY PROBLEMS WITH TOASTER/LIGHTWAVE.
J> THANKS JOE
On Tue 19-Dec-1995  7:09a, John McKenzie wrote:
JM> JKrause357;

JM>  Please stop shouting. It is very rude.

JM> Thank you.

JM>  The 4000T is just an Amiga tower. It is a 4000, and it is in a tower
JM> configuration. There is nothing to worry about, it is an Amiga like other
JM> Amigas.


God! what I can't ever understand is why guys like this JM always seem to
think that someone like this Joe guy, are shouting. It's pretty obvious that
he isn't intentionally doing that. He just forgot to turn off caps lock,
that's all. Gee's lighten up!............md

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From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Spitler)
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Subject: Re: BG Image update is SLOW! (Alpha w/ #9 card.)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
>Subject: Re: BG Image update is SLOW! (Alpha w/ #9 card.)
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:40:36 GMT

>+-- [e-mail] (Charles Sung Lee) writes:
>| Performance in terms of window movement, preview generation and playback
>| in Layout is exemplary. However, Using BG Image in the modeler is
>| excruciating because of the update speed (or lack of, thereof.)
>| I'm guessing that this is a software problem, but I just want to be sure.

>Yeah, you could say it's a software problem -- but the software in
>question is Windows.  Unlike the Amiga graphics lib which allowed me
>to quickly and easily specify the exact blit operation need, the
>Windows GDI interaface has NO support for this fairly mundane operation,
>requiring instead slow and awful methods.  The painful thing is that
>the display hardware is fully capable of performing the blit quickly,
>it's just Bill's Brain-Dead (tm) operating system that makes it slow.

>Microsoft: computer technology of the 1970's -- today.
>--
>        Stuart Ferguson         ([e-mail])
>                "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>                 graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

I agree windows can blow me...  but I use it.... it is definetly not the
software.....  it is windows...  I have been doing some research on this
though and I am looking into weather or not I will be able to make a plug-in
to help correct this small problem in window...

So far it doesn't look good....  (windows is the thing that is holding me back)

michael


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From: [e-mail] (Radiobyfm9)
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Subject: Re: Zip Drive compatibility?
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I too have a parrell Zip Drive at home, running LW4.0 on the pc.  At
school they have an A4000 with Toaster 3.1 and Lightwave.  The A4000 is a
stock '040 with 18 megs of ram, and 2 ide hard drives.  Now, if I were to
get SCSI Zip Drive for the A4000, HOW would I hook the sucker up?
I would basically use the PC at home to create and render animations.
From then I would copy the rendered frames over to the Amiga.  And then
single frame it to tape.  I would think that saving frames directly to the
Zip Drive on the pc, and then playing the frames back off the Zip Disk
would be fairly painless.

Rocky